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MI College Student Looking for Men's Issues Speaker
posted by Scott on Saturday September 14, @02:36PM
from the announcements dept.
News Jeff Mapes from Kalamazoo College in Michigan is looking for a pro-male speaker to come to his campus and give a presentation on men's issues. If you're interested, please e-mail Jeff at k00jm03@kzoo.edu. Jeff has been successful in starting a "men's issues house" on campus. Here's an excerpt from the house's mission statement: "At every level of discussion on this campus, masculinity is ostracized and shunned. From the way sports players are cynically referred to as “jocks,” to the tendency of every discussion on masculinity to center around gender violence, the students, faculty and staff of Kalamazoo College largely operate under a fundamentally negative—and utterly wrong—conception of men and masculinity. This conception begins with the assumption that men, left to their own devices, will act like brutish animals in a Hobbesian state of nature. As a house, our primary mission will be to fight this misconception." We definitely need more college groups like this.

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Looking For Pro-Male Speaker (Score:2)
by Luek on Saturday September 14, @03:03PM EST (#1)
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Hi Scott,

Would it be okay for me or anyone else to redistribute this request for a speaker to other lists?

Thanks,

Luek
Re:Looking For Pro-Male Speaker (Score:1)
by Scott (scott@mensactivism.org) on Saturday September 14, @04:44PM EST (#2)
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"Would it be okay for me or anyone else to redistribute this request for a speaker to other lists?"

Yes, as long as they're lists related to men's issues, that would be great if you could do that.

Thanks,

Scott
good luck (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Saturday September 14, @06:00PM EST (#3)
The university that I attended in the mid 90's was ultra-misandric. I did not organize a formal group to combat the hysteria against masculinity (although now I wish I had), but I was published in the school newspaper as 'pro-male' on gender issues.

Good luck. Do not give up. Men must stand up to the hateful misandrists that have corrupted the halls of higher education in this country.

feminism is sexism


I would love to do this (Score:1)
by Dan Lynch (dan047@sympatico.ca) on Saturday September 14, @07:25PM EST (#4)
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This is a type of thing I am very interested in doing.

I have been developing something for speaking on this as I go along. Im a bit of a maveric, but I am no doubt well researched.

Of course my slant will be on anti-victimhood, anti-feminism and self-defence/martial arts for the modern age.

I am a man and I know what men are going through and I have suffered greatly at this expence.

Hurricane Carter was a motivational speaker that really opened my eyes to that sort of thing. I was so amazed by him.

I have a lot to offer. I also promote racial harmoney and individualism. I think it highly important that we look at people as individuals first before sex,race and religeon.

The individual as the most potent feature of our reality. Pure confidence, pure manhood.
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Dan Lynch
A good speaker (Score:1)
by AlephNull_42 on Saturday September 14, @10:02PM EST (#5)
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Ifyou could get Christina Hoff Sommers to show up, that would be grand, and highly relevantto education.

Read her book "War Against Boys.."
WOO-HOO!!! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Sunday September 15, @01:29AM EST (#6)
I find this flat out amazeing, that this even made it off the ground.
Amazeing and heartening. I wonder what sort of resistance they met from feminists, "accomplice women" and Fem-boys. You KNOW there had to be protest. I doubt the feminist broom-heads would let something like this get by without some kind of challenge.
Either way, all I can say is; WOO-HOO!!

        Thundercloud.
Re:WOO-HOO!!! (Score:1)
by Dan Lynch (dan047@sympatico.ca) on Sunday September 15, @11:38AM EST (#7)
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"Either way, all I can say is; WOO-HOO!! "

This girl I really like, started her own 'anti-feminist' club. She called it the iwc in association with the iwf. She was all by herself and she was an ex feminist.

She realized how feminism was destroying young women and she started to learn the truth.

She took a lot of slack for her club but she considers it her baby.

Coincidently she is considering having me speak in an anti-victimhood seminar/rally. If I go I'd get to cut up feminists and get paid for it. HA! When I wrote that thread I would love to do this. I was also speaking to everyone here to consider themselves possible future speakers. To let them know that they too, can do such a thing and that they should.
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Dan Lynch
Re:WOO-HOO!!! (Score:1)
by Uberganger on Monday September 16, @03:31AM EST (#8)
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If I go I'd get to cut up feminists and get paid for it.

SCUF. The Society for Cutting Up Feminists. It kinda has a nice ring to it, don't you think?


Re:WOO-HOO!!! (Score:2)
by frank h on Monday September 16, @09:23AM EST (#9)
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While I usually avoid political correctness, I thought this might be a more useful variation:
Society for Cutting-Off Feminist Fanatics (SCOFF)

Frank
Re:WOO-HOO!!! (Score:1)
by Dan Lynch (dan047@sympatico.ca) on Monday September 16, @11:12AM EST (#10)
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"Society for Cutting-Off Feminist Fanatics (SCOFF) "

I've always considered 'feminism' to be an ideology of choice. A rightful birthgroup is not a conscious choice one makes they are merely are what they are.

Feminists have never once proven their stances on anything. Now if we were attacking a rightful birth group say women than we would have to consider our values. But as it stands I don't see anyone complaining about how the Jews ostrisize the Nazis why should anyone complain about men and women demeaning feminists?

To quote Amber Pawlik "Feminists are some of the foulest creatures on this earth. Their activism is done by appealing not to the best in women, but to the worst. As such, feminists have managed to hold many women down, allowing those women to dwell in psychological terror -- in order to continue their activism."
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Dan Lynch
Re:WOO-HOO!!! (Score:1)
by Uberganger on Wednesday September 18, @03:39AM EST (#11)
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Now if we were attacking a rightful birth group say women than we would have to consider our values. But as it stands I don't see anyone complaining about how the Jews ostrisize the Nazis why should anyone complain about men and women demeaning feminists?

It struck me just the other day that feminism has given men a gift by so naming itself. There is no 'blackism' and no 'homoism', so criticism of non-white and homosexual sociopolitical ideas is always seen as an attack on non-whites and homosexuals themselves. So strong is this conviction that there are many who would see the preceding sentence as racist or homophobic just for pointing it out. However, when it comes to so-called women's rights we have the word 'feminism', which explicitly separates the ideology from the group that is supposed to embody it. You can be a man and be a feminist, but you can't be white and be black. You can be a woman and not a feminist, but you can't be homosexual and not homosexual. I'm sure we can capitalise on this difference - a difference that feminists themselves have created - in order to undermine and marginalise them. For the same reason I would also play down any idea of 'masculinism' and instead try to cultivate the same sense of our politics that exists within the black and gay rights movements.


Re:WOO-HOO!!! (Score:1)
by Dan Lynch (dan047@sympatico.ca) on Wednesday September 18, @11:59AM EST (#12)
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Interesting thoughts, Uberganger. I have been going from considering the masculist ideal to the ideal that you speak of and back again. But no matter what we decide we have to certainly dispel the myths and the lies of feminism as well as be men and have pride in our masculinity.

I personally do not want to be associated with a hate group. But men and men's needs and issues need to come to the surface. We need medical care and we need fair treatment in court. We deserve nothing less.
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Dan Lynch
Re:WOO-HOO!!! (Score:2)
by frank h on Wednesday September 18, @04:18PM EST (#13)
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Mainstream women (and many mainstream men, too) are afraid of the men's movement because they perceive us as angry, bitter males. Somehow, we need to make ourselves visible as normal and human, thereby making us more approachable, more credible, and less reactionary.

One thing that might work is organizing events where people show up to participate in things normal people do: fundraisers for prostate cancer, mentoring programs in schools, etc. Many women regard themselves as feminists in the same way many men (and some women) like to be regarded as rednecks. It's defiance and independence, and it makes one feel more individual. We need to sneak up on these women in the community and be friendly and helpful but NO less committed to our ideals.

The movement needs to grow. One of our main obstacles is that people fear us. We need to reduce that somehow.
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