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6-Year Old Boy Suspended for "Sexual Harassment"
posted by Scott on Wednesday September 04, @09:04AM
from the news dept.
News Tummler sent in this article and writes "A tardy six year old boy was suspended for three days from his Canton Ohio elementary school last spring for running to the window one morning and flagging down his schoolbus. Unfortunately for the pure souls of the six year old girls on board, he hadn't gotten his clothes on yet. Unfortunately for him, he's just become a man."

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If this is true (Score:1)
by Remo on Wednesday September 04, @09:25AM EST (#1)
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Then I can't think of anything polite that would express my shock and disappointment. Six years old and sexual harrasement? Our society is insane, but COMEON :(
If that's all it takes (Score:1)
by Mars (olaf_stapledon@yahoo.com) on Wednesday September 04, @09:57AM EST (#2)
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Then I think six-year-old boys everywhere should be "harassing" public school officials. This "violation" occurred in the boys home, not at school. The one-neuron administrators who charged the boy probably acted out of their jurisdiction, so they can be sued for everything they own and for future income, including any future child support they are due (this is a fantasy). I'm beginning to believe that the hateful monsters who impose these punishments ought to experience some harassment worth punishing.
Re:If that's all it takes (Score:1)
by John Knouten on Wednesday September 04, @10:39AM EST (#4)
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> I'm beginning to believe that the hateful
> monsters who impose these punishments ought
> to experience some harassment worth punishing.

        While I believe that advocating illegal acts against REAL people is quite wrong, that theme is being explored in a purely FICTIONAL setting in my work "Punishment And Crime".

        In New Orleans 2014 a man named D'Artagnan is falsely accused of rape. Needless to say in 2014 an accusation is equivalent to conviction. So before he is arrested, D'Artagnan goes to Canada to commit a real crime against Ms. Andry -- Canada has much better prisons.

        As I work on the story I post parts on shethinks message board.

D'Artagnan's logic is here.


PUNISHMENT AND CRIME
Re:If that's all it takes (Score:1)
by Mars (olaf_stapledon@yahoo.com) on Wednesday September 04, @03:55PM EST (#7)
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> I'm beginning to believe that the hateful
> monsters who impose these punishments ought
> to experience some harassment worth punishing.

                While I believe that advocating illegal acts against REAL people is quite wrong, that theme is being explored in a purely FICTIONAL setting in my work "Punishment And Crime".


I haven't been sitting around dreaming up ways to stigmatize involuntary circumcisers and witch hunters of little boys all these years for nothing: the administrators who sexualized the unintentional nudity of the boy are morally no better than paedophiles. They should be treated as sex offenders for imposing their twisted, lurid spin on the boys actions. I think you'd be surprised at the support you'd get for these characterizations.

Making the boy sign is child abuse (Score:1)
by Mars (olaf_stapledon@yahoo.com) on Wednesday September 04, @04:00PM EST (#8)
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Making the six year old boy sign a statement that he understands the charges of sexual harassment against him is child abuse, plain and simple. It's hard to imagine anyone other than a paedophile dreaming that kind of abuse up. Are you with me? See where I'm heading?
Re:Making the boy sign is child abuse (Score:1)
by Mars (olaf_stapledon@yahoo.com) on Wednesday September 04, @05:57PM EST (#9)
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Are you with me? See where I'm heading?
I could be on a one-way trip to the insane asylum; on the other hand, I think it would be very gratifying to accuse these people of child abuse, and worse; what's more, I think the charges would stick...;)
Trauma (Score:1)
by Mars (olaf_stapledon@yahoo.com) on Wednesday September 04, @08:00PM EST (#11)
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Actually, accusing the officials of perversion wouldn't stick, as much as I'd like it to. However, if the boy were taken for psychological couneling and found to be severely traumatized, that would be the grounds for an expensive lawsuit.

The article states "According to the officials, the boy was naked at the window "and exposed himself to the children on the bus", some of whom were six-year-old girls." What about the effect on other six-year-old-boys? Obviously they don't count.
Re:Trauma (Score:1)
by Dan Lynch (dan047@sympatico.ca) on Thursday September 05, @12:43AM EST (#12)
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", some of whom were six-year-old girls"

<gasp> The horror!

lmao
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Dan Lynch
Re:Trauma (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Thursday September 05, @12:55AM EST (#13)
...For cryin' out LOUD, This is SO "Freaking" STUPID!

Sexual harassment my @$$!
This little guy is being held accountable for being MALE, PIRIOD!
After all just being BORN male is SEXUAL HARASSMENT these days!

Mars, You said that accusing these idiots of perversion wouldn't STICK.
Un-fortunately, you're probably right.
But if I ever see one of them, I'm gonna chuck a DART at them, right between the eyes!
I bet THAT would STICK!

        Thundercloud.


Re:Trauma (Score:1)
by John Knouten on Thursday September 05, @02:02PM EST (#17)
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> But if I ever see one of them, I'm gonna chuck
> a DART at them, right between the eyes! I bet
> THAT would STICK!

        Real threats against real people are illegal and unethical. However I am trying to explore the mentality of a man driven to crime by a false accusation in my fictional work "Punishment and Crime". A sample is here.
PUNISHMENT AND CRIME
Re:Trauma (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Friday September 06, @04:10AM EST (#19)
((("Real threats against real people are illegal and unethical.")))

I know, John. I'm just kidding, Venting, if you will.
Besides, I can dream, right?

Dreaming. It's the one thing, at least, Feminists haven't been able to take from us. ...Yet...,

        Thundercloud.
My renewed outrage! (Score:1)
by CPM on Wednesday September 04, @10:19AM EST (#3)
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OK I know this is an old story, but my outrage is always renewed when I read these things. Here are a few of my thoughts for anyone interested:

I originally thought that the kid had run outside and actually chased the bus, but this story said that he ran to the window(inside I assume). Whichever the case may be, it is a SIX-F***ING-YEAR-OLD CHILD!! Certainly a six-year-old girl in this situation would be coddled and counciled to help with any trauma she may have endured due to missing the bus, while any six-year-old boys who happened to see her would be disciplined for looking. I'll bet anything that these poor little girls who saw the boy were laughing rather than screaming in terror!

He had to sign a statement saying that he understood that he was being charged with sexual harassment?!? How many people do you know, aside from rad-fems and their lapdogs, who actually understand what sexual harassment is? As I understand it, a signature by a minor is not legal, as a minor has no capacity to sign. But, I can just see it now. When he is around 18-19 years old, this will come up. Perhaps while looking for a job, etc... "Oh I see that you admitted to sexually assaulting(yes I know it was originally "harassing", but with 12-13 years of terminology creep, even "offenses" inflate in value) a bunch of six-year-old girls. I have a copy of the statement you signed right here."

And finally, I can't believe that his parent(s) would allow him to sign such a statement. I hope they file some kind of legal action against the school. But alas, I am aware that not everyone can afford to go to court for what would surely be a losing battle. I don't suppose the ACLU or any other such organizations would take an interest in this...

OK I'm done, you may now resume coherent discussions...

Re:My renewed outrage! (Score:1)
by Dan Lynch (dan047@sympatico.ca) on Wednesday September 04, @11:28AM EST (#5)
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Sexual harrasement was probably the first accusation where 'intent' doesn't have to be proven.

The same with bill 117, the women only has to 'fear' that something is going to happen. Meaning he could be at work all day dreaming about his barbeque and he drives home to a house full of cops.

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Dan Lynch
Re:My renewed outrage! (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday September 04, @01:01PM EST (#6)
yeah, why doesn't the ACLU step up to this shite?

Funny thing, when I went to school the boys bathroom didn't even have a door to the entrance. So anyone walking by and were in the right position they could look in, including girls and female teachers who walked by. You had to go through two doors to get into the girls bathroom, and they also had doors for their stalls, the boys didn't. Why aren't schools sued for not providing privacy for the boys? Why isn't this some sort of sexual violation of privacy or something.

And since I'm on the subject of sexual harresment. In my middle school we had a gym teacher who would watch us dress and undress with a very visible erection through his sweat pants. He did this almost everyday, I didn't even change my clothes I just wore shorts under my pants. All the kids new about this and talked about it like it was common knowledge, which it was. Nothing happened to him, and no other adult caught on to this. Including the two other male gym teachers who he worked with. We were boys we just had to deal with it.
You're kidding me, Right? (Score:1)
by The Gonzo Kid (NibcpeteO@SyahPoo.AcomM) on Wednesday September 04, @07:36PM EST (#10)
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I am for once nearly speechless. This has to be a joke. Please, someone tell me it hasn't gone this far. Where is this school? Who are these asswipes? Who are these candy-ass parents who went along with it? Probably some divorced single mother. The whole lot of them need bitch-slapped.
   
This has got to be a dream.


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Old News (Score:2)
by frank h on Thursday September 05, @10:08AM EST (#14)
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While our collective outraage is well-placed, this article is old news. It would be nice to see an update on this topic, like how is the boy fairing after the fact? What was the reaction of the parents?

If anyone is in a position to follow-up, I'd like to know more about it.
Story is very old (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Thursday September 05, @10:19AM EST (#15)
This story is true. It is also more than two years old.

It can't go on forever (Score:1)
by mcc99 on Thursday September 05, @11:05AM EST (#16)
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The only good thing that can be said of this sort of thing is that it can't go on forever. And we will help see to that.

Oo-gha!
Re:It can't go on forever (Score:1)
by Hunsvotti on Thursday September 05, @06:31PM EST (#18)
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Can't it?
Re:It can't go on forever (Score:2)
by frank h on Friday September 06, @09:52PM EST (#20)
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No. It can't. Eventually, more and more men will figure out what's going on and then it will get violent and bloody and THEN they'll figure it out. But not until some property has been damaged and some lives have been lost.
"Sexual harassment" requires further expansion (Score:1)
by Subversive on Saturday September 07, @04:14AM EST (#21)
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I think the definition of sexual harassment needs further expansion, to include the emotional damage done by labeling minor behavioral faux pas within the bounds of normality as some sort of sexual deviancy, especially in minors. If anyone has been "sexually harassed" in this story, it was the six-year-old boy who stood accused and convicted by the school.
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How about a real lawn ornament? (Score:1)
by Ray on Saturday September 07, @11:59PM EST (#22)
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I think we should all chip in and buy these poor folks some life size male and female nude art work (free speech) for their lawn. You know, some of those life size imitation Greek or Roman statues like the kind you see in the museum. My only preference would be that the guy should be hung like a horse for the intentional offense of the more discriminating tastes in Ohio.

If anybody complained you could just say, "Oh don't be silly it's just art.

I heard that attorny general ashcroft was recently criticised (within the last year)for buying a curtain to cover bare breast(s) of a woman on a statue or painting in some big gov't bldg in D.C. He spoke their frequently. It seems when his speeches were being viewed on T.V. or played back on video one of the nipples was kind of getting him in the ear. He put up with this for a while before he did something.

The top cop put up with this female nudity of a mature woman, but this child almost a babe is somehow obscene? How perverted. If I were a wealthy man I'd buy a gallery in this hypocrite, podunk, hick place and flood it with nude art: adam and eve, Michaelangel's sistine chapel, Michaelangelo's David, Bathsheba at bath, etc. (all nude), but Biblical and therefore moral (not sexual harassment).
Ray
Re:How about a real lawn ornament? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Sunday September 08, @03:20PM EST (#23)
Ray.

Don't forget to throw in the "ROBERT MAPLETHOURPE"
exibit.
You know..., Just to be mean!

        Thundercloud.
The rest of the story... (Score:1)
by Ampersand (barry@amptoons.com) on Monday September 09, @01:59AM EST (#24)
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And then, district school officials heard about it, reversed the school's decision, and expunged the suspension from the little boy's record. He was never made to sign a statement, as far as I can tell.

It's in the Columbia Dispatch, May 15 2000. Funny how no one ever reports the end of the story. Why do you suppose that is?
Re:The rest of the story... (Score:1)
by Ampersand (barry@amptoons.com) on Monday September 09, @02:59AM EST (#25)
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Correction - he did sign the statement. My bad.
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