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Another Nail In Fathers' Coffins
posted by Thomas on Friday July 12, @01:33PM
from the Fatherhood dept.
Fatherhood Glenn Sacks and Dianna Thompson describe the injustice of a new anti-father device imposed by the courts. In her recent decision, Judge E. Chouteau Merrill determined that virtual visitation by computer link is an appropriate replacement for true visitation, where a man might actually be able to hug his children.

Source: MensNewsDaily.com

Title: No virtue in 'virtual visitation' rights

Authors: Glenn J. Sacks and Dianna Thompson

Date: July 12, 2002

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Wow. (Score:1)
by nazgul on Friday July 12, @01:51PM EST (#1)
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This sort of thing just makes my skin crawl.

The only hope is that the shoe will be on the other foot at some point, which is inevitable. If a woman is subjected to this kind of draconian absurdity, the wrath of God will come down on the legal system that permits it. Sadly, in order for fathers to have any chance of gaining sensible treatment, we must usually wait for a mother to express the same grievance.

Virtual visitation!? This is different from a telephone call by the slimmest and most tenuous of margins. It's no different from a supervised, videotaped "visit." What a pitiful attempt to allay guilt. What an abomination!!
Re:Wow. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Sunday July 14, @09:36PM EST (#4)
I thought about this article by Glenn and Daine last night.
I was channel surfing when I stopped to watch a movie about a man who was good with birds at Alcatraz. In one scene a visitor came to him and he was on one side of the glass and the visitor on the other. The visitor started talking but there was no sound. The prisoner then pointed to the phone like object, which the visitor then picked up and started talking into.
I started comparing this scene to "virtual visitation." At least this murderer was physically close to the one he loved I told myself and he could put his hand to the glass and be only separated by fractions of an inch. It stilled seemed pathetically lacking in the nuances of personal hunan contact that are so easily taken for granted, but so deeply sensed and so tragically missed when gone.
The criminal treatment of innocent men has sunk to a new low. America is now employeeing Nazi like experimentation methodologies of sensory depravation to promote the heinous victimization of men's rights to be with their children. Beware of the similarities between the methodologies of "Duetchland uber alas," and mother/female rights over all?

I'm Amazed (Score:2)
by frank h on Friday July 12, @02:12PM EST (#2)
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I'm amazed that this stuff even stands, given what we know about the psychology of touching and hugging, things you cannot do over the Internet. Further, even William Pollack talks to the notion of getting boys to talk during physical activities such as shooting baskets in the driveway or fishing or even just walking together. Are the lawyers defending these cases THAT inept that they can't call on psychologists to testify to this or is it a matter of money, not being able to pay for the expert testimony?
Re:I'm Amazed (Score:1)
by nazgul on Friday July 12, @02:26PM EST (#3)
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It's both.
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