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I admire this guy for having the balls to do what he did. But why did he not inculde masculist women like Claire and myself? Afraid we'd be standing up for ourselves? Maybe there could be a "non-feminist" women's workshop of some sort. Just a thought. (But extra precaution would have to be taken to insure no feminists got in to protest.)
And I like his term of feminist males- "Eunuchs"! LOL No balls! So true! It takes a strong person to stand against popular opinion, and the 3 feminist guys he mentioned seem pretty weak. I mean, if you hate yourself because you're this way or that, you have a pretty weak will or are very insecure. My 2 cents.
"Female men's activist" is not an oxymoron.
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by Anonymous User on Monday January 28, @01:56PM EST (#2)
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LR, I think maybe what he wanted to do was get a purely masculine group. I'm sure you're aware that classrooms "operate" differently in each of three conditions: all male, all female, mixed gender. I tend to think that this is a phenomenon that transcends age. After all, men DO act differently from women in single-gender groups.
While I'm sure he would welcome your support, he may well want his group to men only simply to assure that dynamic, and you shouldn't presume that your support is not welcome.
Frank H
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Nah, I'm not a masculist. I'm a radical Libertarian with anarchist leanings. *G*
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Even if you feel a little unwelcome at his workshops your thoughts and words are more than welcome here!
I, for one, are more than happy to read your (and Claires) input to the issues displayed at this site. It really streangthens my heart that both men and women fight for the same issues I fight for!
/The language errors in this text happened because I´m Swedish :-)
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First off, sorry Claire for mis-classifying you. *G*
Second off, I noticed how men and women operate away from each other. I go to an all-female institution! The girls there tend to be more chatty, bossy, and extreme in their positions than in a co-ed class.
Any insight into the other side of the fence, boys? I obviously have never been in an all-male group before, since I'm female. And I see the guy's point. Guys need a place to be guys!
"Female men's activist" is not an oxymoron.
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Any insight into the other side of the fence, boys? I obviously have never been in an all-male
Although I fully support those who want all-male groups to discuss things like gender issues, I ultimately believe it is up to men and women to change things, and that we won't do any good by separating ourselves. In fact, the gender feminists would not have done so well without men in the mix, supporting them.
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by Anonymous User on Monday January 28, @10:31PM EST (#8)
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I agree that it will take both genders to change the current political climate. Until recently, I was unaware of how much a crisis exists for men. Somebody asked on another site how men are being marginalized and discriminated against. To that (male) feminist, it was simply inconceivable that this phenomenon could happen to a man…because…well…we are men! I will explain this statement later.
Most men simply have no idea how the radical changes in our laws will impact their lives. Unfortunately, it is no longer a matter of “if” but “when” and how fast another male will be destroyed by a feminist using the legal system. It is no longer a matter of how many men will be wrongfully prosecuted by the super-fems. It is a matter of when the vast majority of males in the U.S. population become criminalized. Make no mistake that if you are a male that they will come for you, and this is not a paranoid statement.
Not even the male politicians have any idea of how dramatic an impact their legislation is having. We now live in an environment where any female can claim they are experiencing fear (rational/irrational) and then that female has a free license criminalize another man. This is not an exaggeration or a joke. It does not matter why the female experiences the fear. The male can be the most respected male in our civilization and never have committed an act of physical violence. If the female experiences fear, a male is now at risk to become a victim of the systematic practice of male criminalization. By contrast, if a male reports a similar fear they are ridiculed and shamed.
This super-fem strategy is clearly the most insidious one of all time. It is clear that male legislatures are passing well-meaning laws that are a reaction to the statistical propaganda of the super-fems. Unfortunately, the damaging effects of the legislation are being willfully suppressed by both the super-fems and the male politicians.
I fear that our civilization will not realize the destructiveness of the current legislation at the Federal and State levels for decades to come. We will most likely not know until the majority of males have been criminalized. Then it will be too late because good males that have been illegally convicted and criminalized will no longer be able to obtain a political office. You can bet that the super-fems know this fact and have it in mind at every turn.
The tragedy is that as males are criminalized, nobody believes their rampant stories of victimization at the hands of vicious women who criminally manipulate the legal system. This is how the super-fems intentionally marginalize men and their views. This is how men are being discriminated against and how the public is being taught to hate all males.
To be clear, I will rephrase what I just said. Men are being systematically and intentionally marginalized using a pseudo-legal yet criminal manipulation of the legal system. The intent of the criminalization is to reduce the intrinsic worth of men as human beings. This form of marginalization is not an accident. It is an intentional and well-planned strategy of the super-fems. By pseudo-legal I mean that it is illegal for a female to file a false police report but it is implicitly condoned.
Ask yourself the following question. Who are you more likely to respect, a criminalized father/husband or a super-fem with no criminal record? Currently, we are being publicly taught to trust the super-fems and hate the criminalized male. It does not matter if the male was illegally criminalized. They are simply criminals with a record. It does not even matter if a male is convicted. All that matters is that a female had the male arrested so the male must be a criminal.
In this war, we are taught that men criminalize men and men with arrest records deserve to be hated by all others. Super-fems do not care how they criminalize men. They only care that men are made criminals at all costs, and that is the epitome of bigotry.
Men must unite and agree that THE CURRENT SUPER-FEM LEGAL ABUSE IS LIFE ABUSE!
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday January 29, @01:12PM EST (#9)
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Ask yourself the following question. Who are you more likely to respect, a criminalized father/husband or a super-fem with no criminal record? Currently, we are being publicly taught to trust the super-fems and hate the criminalized male. It does not matter if the male was illegally criminalized. They are simply criminals with a record. It does not even matter if a male is convicted. All that matters is that a female had the male arrested so the male must be a criminal.
Thank you for this dose of reality, anonymous.
Remo
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"I mean, if you hate yourself because you're this way or that, you have a pretty weak will or are very insecure."
LR,
I don't mean to rag on you (Am I dating myself with that phrase or what?), but you've talked about men being "insecure" several times in the past few weeks, sometimes sympathetically, sometimes as a criticism. It has jarred me each time.
These days, calling a man insecure is synonymous with calling him inadequate or unmasculine. It's become a shaming technique, akin to telling a man he's whining. It's weird to hear it coming from a woman who seems to like men.
I'm not at all sure there is such a thing as an insecure man. It seems to me to be a projection of the feminine psychlogy of self-esteem onto men. Men don't run on self-esteem; they run on self-respect.
Anyway, use the term or not, you're not offending my tender sensibilities. Personally I'm concerned about men being unsecure in their homes, their families and in the workplace. Then "insecurity" will take care of itself.
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