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Read about it in National Post one of our (my favorite) papers up here.
The reporter was asking in all seriousness why this problem still exists.
This my reply, via e-mail.
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RE:
Women still struggling to break salary barriers, says U.S. study
NEDRA PICKLER
Canadian Press
January 26, 2002
Ocham's Razor:
Women are willing to work for less money ?
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Donald Cameron
Amateur At Large
http://www.AmateurAtLarge.com
dwc@amateuratlarge.com
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I was going to get all huffy about and suggest that :
if women were going to continue to bring down the wages in the private sector on mass, then they should be ready to receive less in child and spousal support.
(sigh)
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I noticed that the only place they didn't come down were in "heavily regulated sectors", and medicine, but it has always made sense that women also can be doctors and lawyers and intelectuals in general, and there has been no problem for them getting into medicine and law and teaching (intelectual fields in general) in every country in the world, since the 60's.
But, agressive rolls, in unregulated areas like the free market will always be a home game advantage for males just like raising children is home game advantage for women.
It gauls me no end that no other group of human beings gets or even needs chronic government intervention in their daily lives like women.
They far surpass children in the amount of pure intervention that they seem to need chronically.
Glass ceiling my ass, what ever happened to "personal best"?
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Glass ceiling my ass, what ever happened to "personal best"?
That's what I'm wondering. I'm also wondering if Karl Marx was *gulp* right and we're moving towards being Commies....The group is more important than the individual nowadays. Sad, but true. There's no "personal best" because there are no people anymore, just classes and groups. (Can any Star Trek fans say "Borg"?)
"Female men's activist" is not an oxymoron.
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The group!!!
You are right there, my friend.
Women are stereo typed again, this time not by men but by modern feminism. We need studies for this and studies for that, commitees here and commitees there, tax dollars for this and tax dollars for that! We need help here and help there, and for Christ's sake keep those God Damned biological fathers the hell out of our families !!!!
If you don't how can I keep supporting the feminist movement, without my spousal and child support money.
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by Anonymous User on Sunday January 27, @08:55PM EST (#3)
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Anyone wanting to see the report that offers this "data" can find it on this website in this pdf file.
Here are some excerpts from this suspicious document:
"While not an academic-level study, the CPS data give a point-in-time snapshot of women’s status in management positions relative to men’s."
Not an academic level study? But the politicians aren't so concerned about that now are they? Even though they admit it is just a "snapshot"?
"The CPS has two important limitations for assessing women’s progress into management. First, it lacks two important factors for determining salary levels: years of experience, and level of managerial responsibility. Second, since the data are self-reported by respondents, rather than by employers, there is an inherent degree of error. However, the value of the CPS for monitoring women’s advancement is that it contains demographic data that previous research has found correlated with management status for women, including age, race, educational attainment, and family and living arrangements."
These are very significant flaws. By not taking into account the years of experience how can you possibly make conclusions about equal work for equal pay? Self reports? I mean really!!!! this is big time BS
"For example, the GAO analysis found that female managers in finance are 50 percent less likely to have a college degree than male managers in the same industry. They also make only $.76 for every male manager dollar. Even though these women are labeled “managers,” the data suggest that they are in positions that require less education and are lower paying."
So they are comparing female managers without college degrees with male managers who do? DUH!!! Can you say, apples and oranges?
"But working part-time can also make a women’s advancement more difficult. Part-time workers tend to be seen as secondary employees and therefore not as important or crucial to a company’s worth or growth. They are"
Don't businesses need to pay those people more money who they see as crucial to their enterprise?? This quote gives the report away as being a feminist document. It is blatantly pro-women and lacking in consideration for men. Of course the politicians will eat it up!
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I think this is getting a little old. The same complaint for the past 30 years, despite AA programs, the majority of college students being female, and on and on. That women HAD gains which they lost suggests that the "problem" may not lay with men but with women.
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by Anonymous User on Monday January 28, @11:49AM EST (#7)
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What the feminists and liberals have done (like always) is supply a self-tailored report that supports the notion that women are collectively oppressed - so that they can create more government departments that will offer special rights to women.
This report - regardless of it's (in)validity - has already reached the public ear of this country. It has created resentment between the sexes in classic feminist form, where a false reality takes place and men assume the organized and collective role of 'oppressors' in an attempt to keep women down. From this, the feminist infrastructure awakes and rallies their minions into activism in an attempt to create support for a forthcoming ERA campaign, that ultimately will take this country one step closer to a gender specific form of Marxism.
Truth does not matter... soundbites matter, and the distortion of truth rules the modern feminist movement.
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