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NY Wants Taxpayers to Pay For Women's Personal Choices
posted by Nightmist on Tuesday January 15, @11:37AM
from the our-ifeminist-sisters dept.
News Wendy McElroy's latest column warns New York against incoming Mayor Michael Bloomberg's efforts to get taxpayers to fund abortion training for medical residents. Is this, once again, government suggesting that women may make choices without taking responsibility for their actions? McElroy says: I believe the pro-life side has won the abortion debate in North America precisely because pro-choice advocates insist on tax funding, in one form or another, for abortions. That position is both morally insupportable and legally imprudent.

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Abortions should not be taxpayer-funded (Score:1)
by Claire4Liberty on Tuesday January 15, @12:35PM EST (#1)
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As strongly as I believe abortion should remain legal, I also believe that pro-life taxpayers should not be forced to fund a procedure that they feel is murder. Doctors who perform abortions should pay for their own schooling. Women who want abortions should pay for them themselves.
Re:Abortions should not be taxpayer-funded (Score:2)
by frank h on Tuesday January 15, @02:12PM EST (#2)
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Doctors who choose not to perform abortions should not be compelled to do so, or otherwise sanctioned for that choice.
Abortions not a woman's issue only (Score:1)
by Fredpro on Tuesday January 15, @08:31PM EST (#3)
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Unwanted pregnancies are not just the woman's fault here! Abortions and unwanted pregnancies do not just cause anguish in females!! I firmly believe in abortions , and I think they should be assisted by government taxes. The argument that "I don't believe in it, so I shouldn't have to pay for it" is ridiculous. What about people who don't believe in blood transfusions? There are many things in which people don't believe in, but you can't just choose to pay selected taxes.

I might not believe in murdering innocent civilians, so why should I have to fund the campaign in Afganistan? etc etc
Re:Abortions not a woman's issue only (Score:2)
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Tuesday January 15, @09:06PM EST (#4)
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The argument that "I don't believe in it, so I shouldn't have to pay for it" is ridiculous.

I disagree. What's so ridiculous about it? Why should abortions be tax funded but not every other medical procedure? Hell, I'd love to have my health bills paid for by other people, I'm sure, but I don't want to pay for someone else's.

Taxing people to pay for someone else's medical decision is just plain wrong.

Re:Abortions not a woman's issue only (Score:1)
by Fredpro on Wednesday January 16, @05:33AM EST (#5)
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Medical decision?
I'm guessing in most cases abortion is no more a decision than unemployment, old age retirement and schooling etc.

If you still can't see how you have always been (and always will be) paying for things you will NEVER use, then consider this:

If the woman who wants an abortion cannot afford to have one (because it is not tax funded) then she will only cost the government MORE in single parents government support etc etc. I believe abortion is a right for every woman, and I also believe that it is not just a woman's issue, but it is a man's problem as well.
Re:Abortions not a woman's issue only (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Wednesday January 16, @09:27AM EST (#6)
If the woman who wants an abortion cannot afford to have one (because it is not tax funded) then she will only cost the government MORE in single parents government support etc etc. I believe abortion is a right for every woman, and I also believe that it is not just a woman's issue, but it is a man's problem as well.

Yes, Fred.

However, if a man doesn't believe in abortion, asks the gal to have the kid and turn it over to him , or put it up for adoption or something, she doesn't have to. Your doctrine would have him paying for the murder of his child. It doesn't matter what you are I think of it, to him it would be murder.

We need choice for men as well as women in the reproductive process. Until we do that, I don't think for a second that taxpayers should be funding abortions -- and I'm pro-choice!

Last but not least, please remember that once an abortion is performed, that decision is final. Wellfare, child-support, all these things can be adjusted up or down. Thats why people have such trouble and many opinions on abortion. It really is the power to take life.

Remo


tough one (Score:1)
by Lorianne on Wednesday January 16, @11:39PM EST (#7)
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This is a tough one. As a pro-Life person, I don't want to encourage abortion. Also, by paying for it, government tacitly endorses abortion as "health care".

On the other hand, the same argument could be used against government subsidized contraception, which I would support because I think it makes long term financial sense and would mitigate abortion.

To fund/subsidize one but not the other seems inconsistent. Tough call.
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