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by Anonymous User on Wednesday December 19, @10:36AM EST (#1)
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I do not watch much TV, but I have seen her broadcasted recently on a major network news story as a "comeback" and I also saw a commercial for "E" that was to do a whole show on her.
The problem with this case is the double standard involved, if this were a man - you can make a safe bet that the media would have crucified him, them buried him in obscurity for the rest of his life.
Paula got the "light" sentence, was forbidden to talk about her crime, had general and reluctant coverage when the crime became public, and now is glorified by the media as a comeback "survivor"
Do people really believe the garbage that the media spins? I hope not.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday December 19, @10:44AM EST (#2)
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"Poundstone did the perp walk on national TV, and the shorthand of that moment told viewers that Poundstone must be guilty, of something, though at the same time she seemed an overwhelmed victim herself."
Interesting that the author appears to be trying to shift the blame onto someone (something) else rather than letting Poundstone take responsibility... Wonder who will take the heat.
Sunfish.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday December 19, @11:20AM EST (#3)
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This is a different topic, but reminded me of Pounstone how the justice system treats women different than men
Detroit prosecutor Cheryl Matthews won a conviction of Evelyn Djoumessi for the rape (in which she participated with her husband), assault, imprisonment and general abuse of a Cameroons teen-ager they had brought into their home as a nanny. But then Judge Alice Gilbert "sentenced" Mrs. Djoumessi to only probation plus a restriction on hiring anyone to do any housework for her for three years. "You must do all your own housework cleaning, laundry, everything," said Judge Gilbert. Prosecutor Matthews was beside herself, asking reporters how it can be a "sentence" to do something that she (Matthews) already does all by herself, anyway. [Detroit Free Press, 11-16-01]
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday December 19, @02:48PM EST (#4)
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Do any of you people know how this works?!
With the exception of the drunkeness (taking kids to get ice-cream, I believe , when drunk), Poundstone admitted nothing.
And it is very possible that nothing happened. The system is set up to make it easier to plead to SOMETHING rather than to fight it.
Right now only God, Poundstone, and the twelve year old girl know what happened. Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm gonna continue to treat Poundstone (whom I've never even LIKED) as innocent until proven guilty.
Remo
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I don't know if she was guilty or innocent, but I DO believe she got a pass from the media and from the justice system because the media coverage implied that there were sex offense charges against her but the "justice" system declined to give details. Were this to be "Paul" Poundstone, male citizen, then the charges and the details of the of the facts presented would certainly have been disclosed. Like Remo, I'm not ready to lynch Poundstone herself, but I find it OUTRAGEOUS that she was treated differently than a man. Consider Pee Wee Herman. The charges against him were in the media even before the police report was written. And it's not like his crime (the one several years ago in the Florida x-rated movie theatre) victimized anyone. In fact, the practice of masturbating in the seats was reportedly common. Yet he was singled out and his career took a major hit because of it. Poundstone should have been given no better treatment.
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Local radio host Al Rantell discussed this article for a full two hours on his radio program Monday evening. A lot of the discussion centered around what the public's reaction would be to Poundstone were she a man. I don't think anyone would have printed an article like this gushing over a guy who was accused of pedophilia, then plead no contest to child abuse charges. Even IF she didn't actually commit child rape (which I think she may have) she HAS admitted to child abuse via that no contest plea.
I just remember the pictures of her in the paper the day after she was arrested. The look in her eyes was frightening. There was nothing there, just double zeroes. On top of that she was smirking. I don't know about anyone else, but if I were accused of a crime like this and I were innocent, like hell I'd be smirking for the camera. I'd be livid, screaming and yelling and proclaiming my innocence even as my lawyers tried to hold me back.
I just don't trust this woman.
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she HAS admitted to child abuse via that no contest plea.
Good point, Claire. And I, too, remember that look on her face. It really gave me the creeps.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday December 19, @04:56PM EST (#8)
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she HAS admitted to child abuse via that no contest plea
I still don't get the point. By doing so, she gets to see these children, who by all accounts she loves. Thomas, you know that the procedings in any court that she would fight this would be closed, and that all the procedures would be setup so as to hamper her defence. Even someone as rich and famous as Poundstone would have difficulty defending herself against allegations of this nature. In many ways its easier to defend yourself against murder. In capital cases at least, you get to keep all of your rights.
As far as it goes, your subjective opinions on how she comported herself about this whole mess mean little or nothing. People react to trauma in many different ways ranging from shock to anger. Perhaps to her, wearing a smile was reassuring.
I agree that had she been male she would have faced an even more difficult time in both a publicity sense and a legal sense. The same goes had she been poor. But even being a famous, white, rich, comedian woman the family court system is set up against her. Make no mistake about that.
Remo
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday December 19, @05:02PM EST (#9)
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"But even being a famous, white, rich, comedian woman the family court system is set up against her"
I meant to add ..."set up against her in this type of matter". Sorry.
Remo the schmo
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I'll have to side with Remo and others on this one, she is innocent until proven guilty. The real problem is not what or if she did something but the obvious bias in treatment of her case. Women are given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to a moral issue. Blame is often deflected to a drug (in this case alcohol, society, or a man. In this case a male was lacking (i believe she is lesbian, the details of the case are fuzzy for me still) so the obvious excuse was the drug, alcohol. The media and legal system gave her an "out" for her actions. An excuse that no man would have been allowed to justifiy his actions.
Tony H
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She has admitted to child abuse.
your subjective opinions on how she comported herself about this whole mess mean little or nothing.
No one has claimed otherwise. You keep arguing with people who aren't disagreeing with you. Take a breath, Remo. A long, deep breath.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday December 19, @05:39PM EST (#12)
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She has admitted to child abuse.
Well, yes -- the child abuse crime of "negligence". Which I bet every parent has been guilty of to some extent.
She never admitted to child SEXUAL abuse -- which is what the whole thing started about. And she only agreed to that cause they had snatched the children she loved.
Thats all I'm pointing out.
Remo
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