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Sexism Against Men a Result of the "Patriarchy???"
posted by Nightmist on Friday July 20, @11:30PM
from the inequality dept.
Inequality Here's an interesting bit from Excite News. The National Organization for Men Against Sexism has organized a conference to discuss how sexism against men is a result of a "sexist, patriarchal society." The overwhelming majority of murderers and homicide victims are male, and men are more likely than women to use drugs or drink in excess. These are the results of a sexist, patriarchal society, according to Brian Klocke, a University of Colorado-Boulder doctoral candidate in sociology. Although I'm happy that these folks want to shatter male stereotypes, I don't think doing it under the flag of feminist dogma is the way to go about it.

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NOMAS (Score:1)
by Scott (scott@mensactivism.org) on Saturday July 21, @08:20AM EST (#1)
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This isn't surprising coming out of NOMAS. They're about the most profeminist men's organization that I know of. Basically, their party line is: "All of women's problems are men's fault. All of men's problems are men's fault."

Scott
Re:NOMAS (Score:1)
by Kyle Knutson on Saturday July 21, @09:05PM EST (#3)
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Scott, you've characterized this outfit (NOMAS) perfectly. Blame men! For everything -- EVERYTHING!!

A visit to the NOMAS web site (http://www.nomas.org) reveals some troubling and, really, quite clueless approaches. For example, in their *Statement of Principles* they say, "We oppose such injustices to women as economic and legal discrimination, rape, domestic violence, sexual harassment, and many others."

IF they are an organization that is TRULY against sexism, as their name (National Organization of Men Against Sexism -- ha) implies, then they themselves should not be so blatantly sexist. They should recognize and forthrightly state that these same injustices -- which they regard as so terrible when they befall women -- also befall men, and that in such cases, the affront to society is no less. But sadly, they seem altogether clueless here, clueless as to their own sexist attitude.

They go on, in a different section, to throw this out: "We ask men to see, name, and to challenge male privilege in our daily lives." Again, if they weren't so utterly sexist themselves, they would also ask women to see, name, and challenge female privilege and perks. But, however troubling it may be, there's not the slightest inkling of any such grasp.

NOMAS provides the classic example of promoting what Jack Kammer, in his OUTSTANDING online book, *If Men Have All the Power How Come Women Make the Rules?* (http://www.rulymob.com), mentions as "the most curious sexism in the world" -- the belief that "only one sex is sexist".

Until NOMAS begins to live up to its name rather than contradict it, I simply cannot give them much, if any, respect. Moreover, I strongly hope that all those who believe in TRUE gender equality will shun the sexist approach of NOMAS and offer their support instead to organizations that actually do *get* it with regard to men, women, rights, responsibilities, and above all, equality. The National Coalition of Free Men (http://www.ncfm.org), the Men's Defense Association (http://www.mensdefense.org), Men's Rights, Inc. (http://www.mens-rights.org), and the Forum for Equity and Fairness in Family Issues (http://www.feffi.org) are the best bets anywhere.
Re:NOMAS (Score:1)
by BusterB on Sunday July 22, @03:00AM EST (#4)
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While reading your post, I almost laughed out when I realized that the name of this organization means something in Spanish. Now, they may have chosen this on purpose, thinking that they wanted to end what they perceive as "sexism", but when I read it I took it a different way:

No màs. Por favor, no màs!
[No more. Oh, please, no more!]

As you can guess, I've had enough of their kind of B.S. :-)
These people must read Pollack... (Score:1)
by BusterB on Saturday July 21, @03:17PM EST (#2)
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This looks like a convention for those men who have read everything William Pollack* ever wrote....

My original brush with the men's movement was with a group of men such as this. They bent over backward to reassure everyone that they were not anti-feminist, and downplayed any anger or disaffection by men, no matter how justified. It put me off the men's movement for five years.

For my money, this point of view comes from men who are still out impress their mothers (or projections of their mothers) with what good little boys they are. They fit their problems into whatever space feminism has left for them to live in, rather than looking to see where their problems reach and trying to draw the line there. So, Dr. Pollack... put that in your pipe and smoke it! :-)

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*Beware... not only is he annoying, but he also has annoying pop-up ad windows. Bleah!
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