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LA Times Columnist Supports Threatening Men With False Accusations
posted by Scott on Wednesday July 11, @11:54AM
from the false-accusations dept.
False Accusations Marc Angelucci writes "John Smith sent this article from the LA Times to me. Take a look at the bigotry this columnist expresses about entrapping men: "I wish every Okinawan woman dating an American military man would implant in his brain the thought or fear that she might send him to jail." This author comes from miles away in Cardiff, California. The LA Times will print her bigotry but they refuse to print things from men's activists who live right here in LA. You can write the editor at letters@latimes.com."

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Reactionary Author (Score:2)
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Wednesday July 11, @01:33PM EST (#1)
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The author of that column is obviously so close to the subject that her opinions are nothing but reactionary (she's "editor of the Japan Policy Research Institute," according to the article. I ask you... how can a "research institute" be edited?) . She's right up there with those who would ban anti-feminist speech or fire a man accused of sexual harassment without due process.
Re:Reactionary Author (Score:1)
by Robex on Wednesday July 11, @03:13PM EST (#2)
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I agree with you. Expresing and reporting this sort of sentiment seems de rigeur for the US press. What is scary, as is pointed out, is that the self righteous bitterness that this writer displays is rarely challenged.

I remember reading a great/amusing article recently about the "Women's Studies Nod", whereby one can observe the empathic and spontaneous head nodding of female students as they listen to fellow students introducing themselves on their Women's Studies courses and share their "experiences" (guffaw).

I can see all the US campus feminists just now, reading this article and nodding......
(shudder)
Re:Reactionary Author (Score:1)
by Acksiom on Wednesday July 11, @03:36PM EST (#4)
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Would that be "Where Angels Fear to Tread: A Guy Marooned in Women's Studies" by Eric Adler, at this page?

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3afb46625dd3.ht m
The article contains a telling fallacy... (Score:1)
by BusterB on Wednesday July 11, @03:35PM EST (#3)
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This article contained a couple of lines that almost had me laughing out loud, but one of them is a fallacy that deserves an attack, because if it's every exposed and accepted as a fallacy, it could break the back of the feminine hammerlock on "morality":

"As a woman, I find it highly unlikely that, had it been consensual sex, it would have taken place on the hood of a car with several other men looking on."

Look at what's going on in this sentence: she is setting herself up as an expert on what the woman in this situation would or would not agree to because she too is a woman. That is, because both the writer and the alleged victim are women, the writer assumes that she is an expert on the alleged victim's state of mind, and the kind of sex she is likely to agree to and enjoy.

Just how exactly does being a woman make her more informed about another woman's preferences than I am, or you are? I'm a man and I've read many posts by men and women in on-line clubs that express preferences for sexual practices that I find shocking and abhorrent. I have no illusion that just by possessing a penis I have some special insight into why some men enjoy ultra-kinky sex and self-mutilation. Why then does the writer's possession of a vagina give her some special insight into what went on in this case?

Although I agree with her conclusion in that sentence--sex on the hood of a car with a bunch of men looking on seems pretty-much a slam-dunk if the woman claims it was rape--I disagree that this writer has any more idea of what went on there than I do.
Re:The article contains a telling fallacy... (Score:1)
by Spartacus on Wednesday July 11, @08:04PM EST (#5)
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As I serviceman who was stationed on Okinawa I would like to give another perspective, that is, a male perspective.

When I first arrived on the island (decades ago)I met up with a couple of Marine buddies who had caught the flight over right before mine. They had hardly said hello before one of them asked to borrow money. I asked them if they hadn't been paid just like myself shortly after arriving (a month and a half's worth owing to being in transit) and was surprised when they said they had been. Apparently, a couple of the local girls had cleaned them out in the space of about two hours the night before. One of them supported his very elderly parents and could hardly afford the loss. But as I was later to learn, this was a way of life as far as the servicemen were concerned.

I often suspected that half the women in the area had their calendars marked for the 15th and last day of each month (when the Marines got paid). And when the time came, were quick to hit the streets with their war paint on. I remember strings of girls blocking the sidewalk as I would approach and then grabbing me and attempting to drag me into the nearby bar. I wasn't easy prey, for one thing, I didn't drink much (and not at all at first.) These girls would take advantage of your youthfulness and intoxication by giving you the impression that they would be taking you home later. In the meantime, they would be ordering "drinks", sometimes two at a time, in tiny glasses (usually without alcohol) and at a rate that was typically 5 times the price of your own drink (only they wouldn't tell you the price in advance.) A couple hours later you were broke and looking for the sexual promise she had been showing you, only now,it was "No money, no honey."

Somebody once said that rape was "stolen sex" and if once in awhile a man takes what was promised and paid for it shouldn't come as a great surprise. It is pity though, a "short time" behind the bar would have only cost him 10 bucks and there was no danger of being arrested.

Tom Pollock

Re:The article contains a telling fallacy... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Thursday July 12, @11:41AM EST (#6)
I agree. One of my letters to the editor responded to that by saying "as a man, I think she doesn't know many women."

Marc
Times Letters (Score:2)
by Nightmist (nightmist@mensactivism.org) on Thursday July 12, @02:29PM EST (#7)
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The LA Times printed one letter today about this piece. I do not know the author, but the letter may be read here.

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