More hooey from the housework crowd

Story here. If you're a good boy, more num-nums for you! No mention of repairs to faucets or the fact that men are expected to, and far more often than not, have their incomes treated as 'family property' while their wives' incomes are 'her own money'. The whole tone of this article makes me want to reach for the trash can. It just drips with contempt and is filled with garbage. Excerpt:

'NEW YORK - American men still don't pull their weight when it comes to housework and child care, but collectively they're not the slackers they used to be. The average dad has gradually been getting better about picking himself up off the sofa and pitching in, according to a new report in which a psychologist suggests the payoff for doing more chores could be more sex.
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"There's a generational shift that's quite strong," she said. "The younger set of dads have their own expectations about themselves as to being helpful and participatory. They haven't quite gotten to equality in any sense that a women would say, 'Wow, that's equal,' but they've gotten so much farther down the road."'

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Remember, it isn't equality until SHE says it's equality.

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They haven't quite gotten to equality in any sense that a women would say, 'Wow, that's equal,' but they've gotten so much farther down the road."'

Of course, it depends on what the woman says is equal. Here's my definition of equality: How many hours does it take to do everything considered "housework?" If my wife and I both work fulltime then we split the housework down the middle. That's equal. If I don't work, then I clean the house. If it takes longer than 40 hours a week to clean the house, the remainder of the hours are split down the middle. Vice versa for the roles reversed. That way each person is contributing.

That means we're counting the 8+ hours a day people spend outside the house paying the bills. But the non-working spouses love to not count this and see themselves as slaves so that they can bitch and moan and play dittohead to articles like this.

Another note: If a woman equates sex with housework, then maybe your sex life isn't as hot as it should be. If you are good at sex, you shouldn't have to "earn" it or make it appear as if she's sacrificing.

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"... according to a new report in which a psychologist suggests the payoff for doing more chores could be more sex."

Ummm, isn't that just a disguised form of prostitution?

"Honey, if you'll vacuum the living room we can do it doggy style tonight?"

Now if a man attempted an equivalent kind of exchange - "Baby I'll give you sex if you can shut up for one hour..." --

THAT would be misogynist, patriarchal oppression!

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1. who shovels the snow?

2. Who mows the lawn?

3. Who rakes the leaves?

4. Who fixes the car?

5. Who is responsible for fixing anything that breaks?

6. Who changes the flat tire?

7. Who works more hours?

8. Who has a longer commute to work?

9. Who has the most dangerous job?

10. Who checks out the house when his wife here's a noise in the middle of the night?

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If you insist on defining housework as "what a woman does around the house", then it is inevitable that you will conclude that women do more of it than men. It is also inevitable that your stats - and your predictable criticisms of "lazy" men - will be meaningless.

Civilisation: man's greatest, and most unappreciated, gift to women

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I get so sick of hearing how hard house work is and how long it takes. I can clean and organize an entire weeks worth of travel in our house in about 3 hours. I can deep clean the house in a day (8-10 hours). I hear women bitch about how hard this all is and how men still don't give enough. Frankly if you are a Stay-at-Home mom/wife, that's your job. You stay at home and keep it up. If I could I would gladly be a stay at home Husband. I would simply get up when she did, clean till 10 or 11, then run errands if needed and screw around till I need to start getting ready for the evening meal. I could start diner at 5 and have it on the table by 6:15. Then clean the dishes up and settle in for the evening by 7:30. And BTW I would still be able to "meet her needs" when she needed some action in the bedroom, probably because I had my afternoon nap between 2-3 and worked out between 3:30 and 5 to get my blood pumping a bit.

But instead men are suppose to work 8-10 hours, then come home and "do their fair share" and then, maybe, if we are lucky, and have been extra loving, and there are no distractions, and she feels good about herself, and if we have showered before hand, and all the dishes are done, all the meals are planned, and she has had a good day, and isn't feeling fat, and providing she is not PMSing that week, or flowing either, and if everything is in good order down there for her, also we need to make sure the bills are all paid, and the car has had the oil changed recently, also we need to make sure that we have talked about her day enough, and if nothing else interferes like a headache or she is too tired, then we might get sex. All in all guys, my navy buddy has it right when he says "Hell, we all pay for it, so it might as well be upfront." He likes the working girls. Or as another friend says "it is easier to hide a Mistress than it is to convience [his wife] to have sex with me. At least the Mistress knows part of the deal is sex. [His Wife] has forgotted that part of the deal"

Cynically Yours

Sir*Lingam

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Good one, lingam. I enjoyed reading that. You made a ton of good points.

All I have to say regarding this is that housework should be split down the middle between the wife and husband, provided that:
1) They both work outside the home equal hours
2) "Housework" includes all the chores that have to be done, even those which are normally done by men and are often excluded from the list in an attempt to make men look lazy
3) "Housework" includes running errands

If these three criteria aren't met, then I think the man has every right to not put in "his fair share", cause he clearly is, he just isn't getting recognition for it.

Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!

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