Winkler Permitted To Visit Children

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"A judge ruled Wednesday that a woman who killed her minister-husband with a shotgun can begin supervised visits with her three young daughters, but did not decide whether she can have custody of them.

Mary Winkler, who said she needs to help her children heal emotionally from the loss of their father, can visit with them starting Sept. 29, Judge Ron Harmon ruled."

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They should probably frisk her down thouroughly before visits, too. And the children should wear kevlar vests, just to be sure.

-ax

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The children's paternal grandparents, she said, also refuse to let her father and other members of her family visit the girls. "My children need 100 percent of their family," Winkler said.

Oh really Murdering Mary, they need 100% of their family? What about the member of their family that you murdered - their FATHER?

John Ciocca, a clinical psychologist, testified that denying young children access to a parent can be emotionally damaging.

"If these children continue to be kept from their mother without good reason, they can be harmed by it," he said.

Where the hell are the psychologists willing to spew out trash like this when a loving father has his kids stolen from him by a vindictive ex?

I can think of a pretty fucking good reason to keep the children from her though... SHE MURDERED THEIR FATHER!

Oh, and these kids deserve to be raised without her disgusting mentality that you can simply kill your loved one's when you need to cover your own ass and keep them from finding out you've blown through thousands of dollars in a check cashing scheme.

Please keep this woman from poisoning these young girls!

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...to regain access to their stolen children?

I was telling a divorced friend whose children have been legally kidnapped that all he has to do is break into the house he still pays for, unplug the phones, shoot the bitch in the back of the head while she sleeps, take the kids to a beach in Mexico and then tell the jury he was abused, and he's guaranteed to get full custody. The necessary jurisprudence/case law is already on the books, and we're all equals, after all. Hell, I even offered to help him pack and shop for the ammo.

Doesn't seem to work when the genders are reversed, does it? I hope some well-meaning fellow shoots this toxic twat in the head some day soon, and gets a few months of treatment in return.

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Are you back with us, RandomMan?

-ax

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I'm back. I'll even put up with this damned image-verification nonsense every time I want to type something (6 attempts so far to post this), despite the fact that it wouldn't exactly take an army of programmers to do the test once at login and set a session variable or something similar. It's not exactly rocket surgery....

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Sorry to hear the image verification system is not working correctly. I'm disabling it for comment posting temporarily until I can look into a better solution. However, if we immediately start getting spam comments in droves again I'm not sure what I'll have to do.

Scott

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Glad to see you have decided to rejoin the party!

Your idea would work well for men accept for one tiny thing. When a man commits a crime, the question 'why did he do it?' does not come up until after he is sentenced, by which time it has already been assumed the answer is 'because he is a man, and men do bed things'

Reverse the genders and 'why?' becomes the only question ever asked. If she gives some kind of answer - or even if she doesn't some paid shrink will give one for her - then she's free to go.

But don't stop shopping for ammo though, it still might come in handy.

edit: WOW! I forgot how easy leaving a comment used to be before Captcha!

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Scott - please understand that I'm half-kidding when I give you a hard time about the image system. Yes, it often requires several tries to get it right, but it sure as hell beats having SPAM all over your fine site. Many blogs and sites require CAPTCHA validation these days, since the spammers started targeting them in earnest, and many of them are flaky.

FWIW, the best idea I've seen to date is requiring a verification at login and setting a cookie or session variable that says "yup, it's a human" after the first time a user validates during a given session so they aren't asked again until they log out. It's fairly straightforward in terms of coding (so I'm told), although it means using session variables or cookies. If you're using an off-the-shelf package, I know it could be more difficult.

Either way, it's your site, you're the one doing all the work here, and I completely respect your decision to use validation wherever you need it, whenever you need it. Even if I do occasionally give you a hard time about it :)

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The site already uses sessions or cookies, since it remembers who you are when you've logged in.

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"Scott - please understand that I'm half-kidding when I give you a hard time about the image system. Yes, it often requires several tries to get it right, but it sure as hell beats having SPAM all over your fine site. Many blogs and sites require CAPTCHA validation these days, since the spammers started targeting them in earnest, and many of them are flaky."

No problem. The issue is that the captcha isn't working consistently. That's something I can and should fix, and I'll see what can be done soon.

Scott

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As I understand it, the dead dad's parents are contesting the murderer-mom's petition for sole custody of the kids.

Keep in mind, no one disputes that she murdered the kids' father.

And now, fine legal minds are spinning up ingenious arguments for why these children should be given over to the woman who killed their father.

It boggles the mind....

FemAmerica.... land of the unfree, and home of the unbrave.

Joe ("Father of VAWA") Biden for Prezodent?

WTF?

PS - I am going through withdrawal spasms now because I did not have to type sixteen CAPTCHA squiggly morphed unwords just to post ....

Ah! That's better!

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Welcome back, RandomMan.

I would have missed you much more except my attention was diverted typing all the squiggly captcha keywords.....

Never did see "random" offered up as the key to the blog....

That's just not right.

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Why don't these hillbilly judges just drop all pretense and just take a number and get in line to kiss Bloody Mary's husband murdering ass?

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The winkler murder case was the churhes opportunity to open a dialogue about how far anti-male hysteria has gone!! Women can now get away with murder!!

This opportunity is being squandered!!

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Most men in church have wives and women run the church.

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