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Report from court: California DV law challenged
Submitted by Matt on Wed, 2008-07-23 15:10
Posting here. Excerpt:
'After the court adjourned, I and most of the other male advocates in attendance all went to lunch and discussed the case. Marc felt that he had much more to say, including elucidating the stories of specific individuals who had been hurt by the state's policy denying funding to male DV victims. He wasn't allowed the time. And yet, when the chief justice told Marc that his time was up (he only had 7 minutes for his final remarks), it seemed clear that the justices had made up their minds or at least understood the issue clearly enough so as to decide without the need for further persuasion. The chief justice even showed a little terseness to the State's attorney when it appeared that the State's attorney seemed to be splitting hairs over the political legitimacy of discriminating based on gender.'
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Here are a couple of photos of the courhouse where this appeal..
Here are a couple of photos of the court building where this possibly historic appeal was held.
Courts Bldg.1
Courts Bldg. 2
Below the frieze on the court building it says, Into the Highlands of the Mind Let Me Go
Let us hope the Justices in this case take the "high road" and decide this case in the plaintiffs' favor. It is time for men to have equal protection under domestic violence law - equal to women. It is time for Fathers' in prison to be treated with the same parental respect and services that Mothers' presently have. The "high road" leads to equal protection for all, not just selected and favored groups as the law presently is NOT SUPPOSED TO ALLOW. Let us hope the judges decide to treat "all" equally and not take the "low road" that leads to more gender feminist discrimination against men, and more tyranny.
Yes, a lot hinges on this case, including an enormous amount of the California courts' integrity. If this decision should go against the plaintiffs, if men are not to be equally protected under law in California, then let it be known far and wide that California is a state that embraces and promotes gender Jim Crow law against all its male citizens. Let it be known that California has fully institutionalized the inhuman, unconstitutional hate that it has practiced for so long - based on nothing more than the male sex that a human is born into.
We shall see the Justices decision in about two months. Let us hope, and pray, that the Justices take the "high road."
Here is the view to the east
On the same spot where the photo of the court building was taken (facing south) is a view of the
California State Capitol (facing east).
This lawsuit would never have been necessary, had it not been for the misandrist domestic violence legislation that came out of the California legislature - and the United States congress.
Well Done Marc
Marc,
Great news... very nicely done. This will set the stage for similar suits in other states based on precedence rather than greivance and perhaps even introduction of legislation in the Hallowed Halls of Congress to equalize funding for male victims of DV/IPV and 'non-ideological' (ie non-gender power oriented aka Duluth Model) intervention and treatment programs for abusers.
Gunner Retired
Thanks Gunner Retired. Here's a pic of us at the courthouse
http://www.ncfm.org/activities.html
Outstanding!
Millions of men owe you gratitude for your time, service, and devotion. When the MRA history book is completed, your work will not fall on deaf ears. Cheers!
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way to go marc, history will
way to go marc, history will report that against all cultural hysteria, you stayed fast to you're cause.
WTG Marc!
I loved your rebuttals to the judges arguments. You're clearly excellent at what you do! I and all the other MRAs alive are forever endebted to you for this history making accomplishment. I also respect your perseverance and "won't take no for an answer" attitude. Keep it up!
Evan AKA X-TRNL
Real Men Don't Take Abuse!
Excellent job Marc
It's hard to see any negative in this - even for me. However, I would like to take a potshot..the comment says,
"appellate judges love to pose "devil's advocate" questions all the time, and they were clearly having a go of it"
I don't know if it's the same mentality, but it reminds me of that guy Bork(sp) who was being considered for the U.S. Supreme Court a while back. At some point he said the reason he wanted the position was because it was "a stimulating intellectual game" (paraphrasing) to sit on it.
Maybe this asking of the devil's advocate questions is a mental workout, a chess match of sorts for some of them. Whatever.
-ax