Father has parental rights terminated after mother lied

	posted by Matt on 11:21 AM June 23rd, 2006
	Michael_NC writes "A court rules against the father for not filing an affidavit to legimate a child after the mother lied to him and told him she had a miscarriage. He had previously did all he could for the mother and upcoming child until the lie. 'RALEIGH - A biological father should lose his parental rights because he did not establish himself as a caregiver, even though the mother deceived the man by claiming she had a miscarriage, the state Court of Appeals ruled Tuesday.'"

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simply un-constitutional (Score:1) by Demonspawn on 02:42 PM June 23rd, 2006 EST (#1) "The judges ruled that under state law Ingram had to gain paternal rights by either marrying the mother, providing substantial financial support or consistent care to the mother and child or immediately filing a petition to the courts or to the Department of Health and Human Services." Does state law require the mother to marry the father, provide substantial financial support or consistent care to the father and child, or immediately file a petition to gain parrental rights? If not, this is a simple violation of the 14th ammendment. I find it funny that a man can be dismissed from a child's life by the mother's choice if he doesn't file within a certian deadline. On the other hand, the mother can hide the pregnancy from the father, and then come to the courts years later and gain not only a child support order, but back pay for the years that the father never knew the child existed. Strangely enough, the father can't make a motion for 'back visitation'. Immagine the outcry if we held women to the same standards and they have to file for support by a certian deadline or loose those rights forever. --Demonspawn

It's time for a counter-offensive in this "war" (Score:1) by RandomMan on 01:43 AM June 24th, 2006 EST (#2) If a man voluntarily marries a woman today, he is out of his mind. If a man voluntarily has sex with a woman in a way that can result in a pregnancy (i.e. if he is producing viable sperm), he is similarly crazy. It's a 25-year prison sentence. Murderers do less time. There are only a few ways to reverse the anti-male bias in women's law aka "family law" and "criminal law": 1) Stop marrying women (or otherwise exposing yourself to family courts). Women want "commitment", which translates roughly into "meal ticket". 2) Stop having children and don't start again until the situation is equitable. Don't donate sperm, ever. Women want children, not husbands. They need us to have them. Stop giving them what they want. 3) I'm with Little Lion: it's time men started using their considerable influence on governments (we do finance them, after all) to ensure that until men are granted the same legal rights and protections as women in all areas, women are also denied basic rights. For instance, access to abortion, access to birth control, subsidized day-care, and all the other issues that the "women's movement" constantly foams at the mouth about. It's time to go on the offensive. 4) A school has a "women's studies"/misandry program? Don't go there. Don't pay for your children to go there. Let the manhaters talk only to themselves and hold man-bashing re-education camps for themselves for a change. 5) Never buy anything advertised in association with misandry. Don't buy products advertised in media that contains misandry. Start doing the shopping in your house to control what is purchased from whom (oh, and screw you, manhaters, that's not "domestic violence", even in your wildest paranoid delusions). Women do not understand discussion unless it is entirely about what's in it for them. Simply put, the last several generations of women have been conditioned to ignore anything that isn't about them and them only. Some have outgrown this conditioning, but not the ones in government, for the most part. The only way to stop the damage and potentially reverse it is to make equality something that will "benefit" the women in our societies, otherwise they will either actively continue to marginalize us or sit idly deaf and mute while it's done in their name, with a very few exceptions. As we've seen from the "women's movement", many women today simply don't give a shit about men, and the ones in government are the worst of the bunch. Since they already hold all the possible benefits and advantages in society, we must absolutely take them away in order to gain leverage. No equality? No kids. No mealtickets. No marriage. No abortions. No birth control. No peace.

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