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by RandomMan on 11:53 AM June 4th, 2006 EST (#1)
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In the fairy tale of Beauty and the Beast, the woman kisses the beast and he turns into a charming prince. In cases of domestic violence, the scenario is flipped upside down. The "prince" she married transforms into the beast she feared. We need to have tough laws to protect her.
Domestic abuse is not just a "family matter;" it’s a national epidemic. Lets make a woman’s home safe. It’s a matter of life and death.
Someone hereabouts posted an excellent analysis or at least a link that demonstrated the "fairy tale" aspirations of feminism - the woman kisses the toad/beast (i.e. endures the hardship of maturing and accepting sex as part of their lives) and learns that the toad was actually a prince all along (i.e. that sex was in fact a positive aspect of existence, not the fearful trauma she expected in her childhood). That women fear sex in childhood is logical - the female body is not ready for the dangers of childbirth until later in life, so an ingrained fear of sex makes perfect biological sense, at least until the woman reaches sexual maturity.
This sort of fairy tale is little more than a metaphor for sexual maturation in women. The difficult trial or task they have to go through is the transition to an adult view of sexuality, which should occur once they are able to manage childbirth. There's a reason this sort of myth permeates all cultures - a biological one. The need to undergo that transition is one of the many things which feminism, as a negative, nihilist movement, seeks to prevent, enabling women to remain fearful girls throughout their lives. Feminism's broad success is why we see the marriage age rising to the late 30's, and men more likely to want marriage and children than women today. It's why we see women avoiding childbirth, and it's why we see the "women's movement" doing everything in its power to allow women to remain scared children under the laws, with their all-powerful father figure (the government in this case) protecting their "innocence". The birth control pill allowed women to escape responsibility for their own sexuality, so it's only natural that this fairy tale would develop in its wake.
As part of this broader effort, feminism looks to keep women afraid of "brute men" using agitprop like this childishly biased article from the sexists at Fox. This is also a metaphor, except that this time it reinforces the threatened , innocent child model seen so often (and across many cultures) which is ultimately based on a fear of sex, and the dangers of sexual maturity, including childbirth. If feminists or the press were to admit that women are just as likely as men to be violent, as has been demonstrated repeatedly, and that domestic violence is a multi-causal human problem that knows no gender, it would shatter another "fairy tale" that gives women an excuse to avoid "kissing the frog", i.e. becoming sexually mature adults.
The modern fairy tale also explains the creation of "raunch culture", and feminism's seizure of the childish pornography business as its own - by keeping sex and violence in a childish, gender-aligned context, feminism encourages women to avoid maturity.
This is the modern fairy tale: men are violent, controlling brutes who threaten women - the domestic violence myth and attendant hysteria are nothing more than a metaphor for a girl's biologically programmed fear of sex. The father figure in the story has made the transition from King to Father Government, and as I just described, its purpose is to enable women to avoid maturity and responsibility. Equality is irrelevant, because men and women are biologically programed to be different.
This is also why the "metrosexual" male is such a popular construct: by de-"daddyifying" men and removing their capabilities (or at least the appearance thereof), as paternal figures, feminism can increase the reliance of fearful women-girls on their surrogate "daddy", the government.
I really wish people would wake up to the reality of the fairy tale in our culture. It's killing men and women alike, all to facilitate a fairy-tale existence for women.
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by Roy on 12:20 PM June 4th, 2006 EST (#2)
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"Wiehl received her undergraduate degree from Barnard College in 1983 and received her Master of Arts in Literature from the University of Queensland in 1985. In addition, she earned her Juris Doctor from Harvard Law School in 1987."
And still she cannot write well, does not have basic scholarly research skills, obviously slept through the classes on journalistic integrity and ethics, and somehow found her way into a lucrative media career.
Look at her photo.
Aging once-cute blonde j-school fluffer.
(And I'm just critiquing her logic, not her tragic need for a grammar-checker.)
She repeats all the tired and refuted DV statistics, adding poorly written hysterics about women not being safe in their own homes and DV being the #1 cause of women's injuries.
All of this is bunk. Old, dismissed hokum.
The No. 1 cause of women's appearance in a hospital E.R. is falling.
DV accounts for approximately 1% of women's medical emergencies.
Do you think that maybe this article was released now because VAWA 2005 is coming up for scrutiny in Congress in the appropriations committees?
How many more billions do we need to throw at an imaginary "epidemic?"
(Answer: as many dollars as it takes to continue the gender wars into the next century!)
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by Roy on 12:44 PM June 4th, 2006 EST (#3)
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I really hate it when I post before reading the entire thread.
RandomMan wrote-- "The modern fairy tale also explains the creation of "raunch culture", and feminism's seizure of the childish pornography business as its own - by keeping sex and violence in a childish, gender-aligned context, feminism encourages women to avoid maturity."
Feminism has in fact made all women into infants.
They will never take responsibility for their actions, values, character, ideas?
Why would a man want to marry a child with a vagina?
This is precisely the average state of marriage today, yes?
She may work, even have a college degree.
But she is still a deformed sexual object, a stripper-wanna-be, a porn-star without the goods, a poet without a rhyme?
What has happened to our women?
Where did they go?
America used to have great women.
Maybe our decline as a nation is because they are going away?
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by brotherskeeper on 01:53 PM June 4th, 2006 EST (#4)
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Check out the 'pedigree' on Lis.
Brings to mind W. F. Buckley's famous and very prescient line:
"I would rather be governed by the first 2000 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty".
Touche Bill.
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by MR on 02:53 PM June 4th, 2006 EST (#5)
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Wasn't journalism once upon a time based on objectivity???
According to the DOJ, in the year 2000, women who were victims of Intimate Partner Homicide comprised 8% of all homicides. The actual number was 1247. The 440 men who were victims of Intimate Partner Homicide, comprised 3%. Overall, men were 76% of all homicides, and women were 24%.
Where's the real epidemic???
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by Roy on 11:01 PM June 4th, 2006 EST (#6)
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"Where's the real epidemic???"
Well, that would be in Congress, where 100% of male "people's representatives" voted for VAWA 2005-2010.
VAWA will be repealed soon.
When sheep get to speak....
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by RandomMan on 01:00 AM June 5th, 2006 EST (#7)
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Baaaaaaa?
Replace VAWA with a law that addresses the human problem of domestic violence instead of pouring money into an empty, hateful ideology, NOW!
(Yes, the double entendre was intentional re "NOW", before you ask).
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by khankrumthebulgar on 10:59 AM June 8th, 2006 EST (#8)
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FoxNews needs to hear from Angry Men about our Demonization by this FemNag harpie. And our displeasure with the continual lies of the Feminists and their apologists. Otherwise we will turn off the Channel to Fox. If they are simply the NeoCon propaganda arm for Feminism screw Fox News.
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by MR on 04:17 PM June 8th, 2006 EST (#10)
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...NeoCon propaganda arm for Feminism screw Fox News.
"Chivalrous," NeoCon propaganda arm for Feminism screw Fox News.
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by quetzal on 03:56 PM June 8th, 2006 EST (#9)
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What is she talking about, when she says that (paraphrasing), "until recently violence was the dirty little secret in the household"? When in the last 15 or 20 years have we not had our "awareness raised" about this little secret, on an almost daily basis?
The real secret is that men have been getting the shafted by the 'justice system' on this issue, especially when they are subjected to false allegations.
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