Male Suicide

	posted by Matt on 01:52 PM May 5th, 2006
	bulldogo.1 writes "While it's great this is finally being acknowledged, the response is hardly encouraging. A quarter of a century to stamp out male suicide? 25 years? Imagine if this was about female suicide. On top of that it'll be hard actually dealing with the problem, as its causes (parental alienation, toxic feminist social engineering, female driven divorce etc.) aren't politically correct enough to be made public. Also, newspapers don't report lone male car accidents etc., with no other evident cause, as suicide so the actual number is definately way higher."

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What about the real reasons? (Score:1) by Davidadelong on 07:13 AM May 8th, 2006 EST (#1) With a male suicide rate as high as that one might take time to muse on the societal reasons for this situation, no? Whenever the mules do things like take their own lives the system looks at their loss, they don't like to lsoe money invested in training. It is rather selfish of those Men to just opt out of their oppressive lives leaving their employers the trouble of replacing them isn't it? The real reasons and implications of this situation will never be addressed. They will have another check list of warning signs, and mandate counseling and drugs with re-indoctrination to make Men that are depressed and oppressed into continuing to perform at their jobs until the system is ready for them to die! Another case of bandaids, smoke and mirrors, and lies....

Re:What about the real reasons? They will appear. (Score:1) by Sheldon on 06:03 PM May 10th, 2006 EST (#2) It will take a social revolution for them to understand the socio-cultural factors--the real reasons-- behind such a rate. As Warren Farrell discovered, the male suicide rate has jumped exponentially in the last eighty years, and has gone up by an even more crushing margin just in the last thirty years. One of the second wave feminists' ideas is how societal factors effect the status and position of women. Of course, the same effects men, but one of the myriad of asinine secular myths perpetuated about men is that their problems seem to arise out of a vacuum: as if they weren't cultural beings--and so therefore are not effected just as much by cultural agents, ya know, because of patriarchy(duh)--like women. Part of the success of the men's movement will involve working (and this time 'work' that will not kill us)toward expunging that ridiculous myth(among many others). However, I think there is cause for some celebration; the fact that they not only highlight it but are pledging to work towards lowering the rate (and, in what can only be implied clandestinely by such an initiative, to narrowing the canyon between ours and women's rates) should be received optimistically. Never say Never, let's channel some of that classic male fighting spirit into stuff that works to better us for a change; the "real reasons" WILL be addressed at some point. Have faith.

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