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No DNA Match in Duke Lacrosse Team Scandal
posted by Matt on 01:07 PM April 11th, 2006
News I debated which category to post this under: News, False Accusations, The Media, or Inequality. Really, this story touches all of them, so I went with "News" since that is the most general, though it sort of seems like it underemphasizes what is a very comprehensive example of how men and male sexuality in particular is attacked and condemned.

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There's no doubt that it is in some people's judgment immoral to hire a stripper. At the same time, it's perfectly legal and geez, women do it too (Google "Chippendales" or better yet just look up "adult entertainment" listings in the Yellow Pages to see that strippers come in both sexes). The morality of the actions of the lacrosse players though is not nor should be a factor-- the legality of their actions are what should be examined, since we can play the morality game all day and come up empty. As for the lousy attitude shown by one of the players in one of the emails reportedly sent by him to his friends, I will be first to say that it is not at all desirable and eminently condemnable. However, is his attitude enough to label him a criminal? And would the parallel attitude from a female toward a male, stripper or not, be as readily condemned? We here at MANN know about how many times a day prominent women in media and other spheres say or write equally nasty things about men and seem to get away with it without the least bit in recriminations. So I stress that such behavior and attitudes are wrong coming from people of either sex. But are they grounds for criminal prosecution or the ruining of one's future, especially if the person in question is still rather young yet and perhaps has some growing up to do? No, they are not.

I saw the breaking news yesterday on CNN when it was revealed there was no DNA match on the boys, nor any forensic evidence at all of any sexual assault committed by any of them. The reporters seemed embarrassed and harried and one remarked that "rapists can use condoms," implying that the lacrosse players had done what they were accused of, and just were smart enough to use condoms to avoid detection. There has been no evidence reported that such was the case (ie, condoms recovered, or other evidence, such as of physical injury to the accused or the accuser), and even if there had been, in the case of a used condom being discovered, such is not prima facie evidence that a rape occurred.

So at the present time, what this appears to be simply is a case of a false accusation that has likely led to the ruining of the futures, at least the foreseeable futures, of a number of young men who have been publicly named-- while their accuser has not been and can't be under law. It is another case, or so it appears, of a man/men being presumed guilty based solely on the accusation of a woman, with any further evidence entirely lacking.

In short, it seems to be a textbook example of what MANN regulars have been discussing now for years: men are guilty of whatever, no matter what, when accused of whatever by a woman.

Justice for all, indeed!

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Prosecutor Refuses To Drop Charges (Score:2)
by Roy on 03:43 PM April 11th, 2006 EST (#1)
The prosecutor in this case has refused the defense attorney's appeal that the charges be dropped in light of the total absence of DNA evidence of any rape.

Also, the prosecutor stated publicly that "just because nothing was left behind does not mean that no sexual assaults occured..."

He further stated that in 70% of sexual assault cases there is no convincing DNA evidence.

Huh?

Anybody want to explain how a woman could be multiply raped and no semen or skin cells are "left behind?"

Any forensic science majors here at MANN?
Re:Prosecutor Refuses To Drop Charges (Score:1)
by kavius on 12:29 PM April 12th, 2006 EST (#2)
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Let's take that a step further....

As you said: "no semen or skin cells..."

To that I would like to add (from the article) latex, lubricant, or spermicide.

Re:Prosecutor Refuses To Drop Charges (Score:1)
by TachyonMale on 03:35 PM April 12th, 2006 EST (#3)
Here's what the experts did...

Cheshire said even if the alleged attackers used a condom, it's likely there would have been some DNA evidence found suggesting an assault took place. He said in this case, the report states there was no DNA on her to indicate that she had sex of any type recently.

"The experts will tell you that if there was a condom used they would still be able to pick up DNA, latex, lubricant and all other types of things to show that — and that's not here," Cheshire said.


So, no semen, skin, latex, or DNA of any kind. Sounds like a very accurate set of tests. In other words, the individuals have ot been raped by any team members, of had sex any time before that.

It looks to me like the strippers have been lying thru their teeth. Should we chalk another one up on the list of false rape accusations?

Re:Prosecutor Refuses To Drop Charges (Score:1)
by MR on 10:17 AM April 13th, 2006 EST (#5)
Yea, we are assuming rape when all the real evidence clearly says there was none. So she has injuries consistent with rape so what? Maybe she had sex with her boyfriend before the party. Even if they had found lubricant, or latex does that mean there's not a "smoking dildo" somewhere?

Where spending way to much effort on lying women these days, when we should be prosecuting them for false allegations. This is life today in Nazi America under the jack boot of gender feminist power and control. The abuse of justice is endless. The entire legal system belongs on comedy central, but only as humor for the really, really stupid gender feminists calling all the shots in the Amercian legal system.
Re:Prosecutor Refuses To Drop Charges (Score:1)
by quetzal on 05:49 PM April 12th, 2006 EST (#4)
After reading these posts here, as well as a couple of recent news article, I think I see what is going on with this thing. The news articles in the St Petersburg, FL Times both quoted an E.R. nurse and doctor who said "the injuries are consistent with [sexual assault/rape]"
This thing sounds like a rape of the justice system to me. It is even worse than 'guilty until proven innocent'. It is as if there is some mysterious force at work in this case, the result of which is to 'prove' by any means possible that a crime DID occur. I am wondering if the doctor was a woman. What the hell does 'consistent with' mean? It shouldn't mean shit legally; wouldn't it have a little more force if it was said, "it appears the injuries WERE CAUSED BY sexual assault".
Do you guys see what I am getting at? It is as if there is some moral dictate concerning alleged crimes against women, whereby if medical and legal authorities CANNOT RULE OUT rape, this means a crime WAS committed!!! This is insanity!!!
--quetzal
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