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USA TODAY: College gender gap widens
posted by Matt on 08:36 PM October 20th, 2005
Education mens_issues writes "It seems that USA TODAY is finally recognizing that the education system over the last few decades has been so tilted against boys that it is resulting in a gender gap of 57% women to 43% men. The disparity is even greater for black men. While the article is not perfect (it also mentions the so-called wage gap as if it were fact), it is an improvement. The article is here.

Also, see these related articles: http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20051020/admitboyside.art.htm http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20051020/d_admitboysgraphic19.art.htm

Steve"

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They got to spin it (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 10:56 PM October 20th, 2005 EST (#1)
This really can come as no surprise, given the plethora of girls-only programs and learning environments fashioned to favor girls. Typical of the current PC media, the article has to include some feminist propaganda:

Talk of gender is fraught with social, legal and political minefields. Witness the outcry after Harvard President Lawrence Summers remarked in January that women might be underrepresented in sciences because of innate differences in abilities. For one thing, female inequities persist. There's still a pay gap. According to the Census Bureau, women on average earned 77 cents to each dollar paid to male counterparts in 2004.
So it's perhaps no surprise that most educators exploring the issue have an eye toward equilibrium.


So, women far outnumber men at universities, but they are still oppressed and haven't achieved "equilibrium."

This will continue until enough of us speak up.

TLE
Re:They got to spin it (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 06:55 PM October 22nd, 2005 EST (#11)
That excerpt truly shows that pathetic, lying, male-hating spirit of the mainstream media. The old bogus "wage gap" statistic, which really measures men's lack of opportunity to take a few years off from work to spend time with the kids, is trotted out in an article about a really devastating inequality males face. Then something about educators and "equilibrium"? WTF??!!!
Interesting how they frame things... (Score:1)
by canaryguy (nospam.canaryguy@nospam.stealthfool.com) on 12:11 AM October 21st, 2005 EST (#2)
From the article: (authored by Mary Beth Marklein)
Most of those tracking the issue agree that getting males into the college pipeline is best addressed in elementary and secondary schools.

[...slice...]

But meaningful change must take place well before the college years, says Gurian, who acknowledges a personal interest in the subject: He has two daughters. “We all know a boy that's struggling,” he says. “If we create a generation of men who aren't getting an education, that's bad for women.”

Ah, one of the tenets of feminism in action: "Men don't matter." The whole focus of the article is on women, women, and a sideways glace at men.

I think some people are starting to realize that this problem isn't going away soon. It will take at least 20 years to address -- if it can be addressed.


learning environments fashioned to favor girls (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:39 AM October 21st, 2005 EST (#3)
Same problem here in the UK. Woman now outnumber men in higher education. The girls are now out achieving boys in the lower schools. For the past generation every effort has been made to bend the learning environment to favour girls with next to nothing done for the boys. They are now saying it’s because boys don't pay attention and are not motivated. Surprise, surprise since the lessons are designed for girls by women and overseen by feminist ministers in government.
I don't expect anything to be done soon because the feminists and their male fellow travelers now control the media and run the state education system from top to bottom

Pity the girls, not the boys (Score:1)
by Duncan Idaho on 04:35 AM October 21st, 2005 EST (#4)
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“If we create a generation of men who aren't getting an education, that's bad for women.”

That's the part of the article that stood out for me as well. Its often suggested in articles about boys and men struggling in education and the workforce that this is terrible for women. Only they matter, as usual.

Why is it bad for women then? Surely, if women get more degrees and more professional careers, surely women can work to support stay-at-home-husbands. Oh, wait, they don't want to do that do they? Even though men have been supporting stay-at-home-wives for centuries.

Its very curious that if a man goes to work whilst his wife stays at home, then he's an oppresive chuavinist denying her the right to a fulfilling career, but if a woman goes to work whilst her husband stays at home, then he's a lazy useless lay-about who is spounging off of his wife.

Feminism: Double-standards by the bucket-load.

Quite frankly, I don't care if something is "bad for women." I'm sick of hearing about them and their problems, and how men's problems only matter if it creates negative side-effects for women. I just don't give a shit about what women want anymore.
Re:Pity the girls, not the boys (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 12:53 PM October 21st, 2005 EST (#7)
Yes. Here! Here!, Duncan. I'm with you all the way, bro.

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How Schools DONT Shortchange Girls (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 10:22 AM October 21st, 2005 EST (#5)
That controversial report they mention in the article that brought everyone's attention to the issue was written to a feminist that actually included much falsified information that had no research backing whatsoever. Many recent studies have been done to look into that data, but the offices of the author were locked up and have not been taking questioning. Isn't it amazing...that an entire movement to screw the male gender over, began with simple lies because people believe a feminist from Harvard and the AAUW so blindly.
The "wage gap"... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 12:48 PM October 21st, 2005 EST (#6)
It's the wide expanse between a feminist's ears.

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Re:The "wage gap"... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 12:50 PM October 23rd, 2005 EST (#12)
Hypocrites are funny. Sensitive thugs, yall need hugs.
More "Gee, it's gonna affect the gals badly, so.." (Score:1)
by mcc99 on 03:26 PM October 21st, 2005 EST (#8)

“We all know a boy that's struggling,” he says. “If we create a generation of men who aren't getting an education, that's bad for women.”


Ahh, once again, it's "let's consider the interests of men only insofar as they benefit, or not women". That boys would want an education with or without a future including a wife or gf is beyond some people to imagine, I suppose.

Re:More "Gee, it's gonna affect the gals badly, so (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 05:45 PM October 21st, 2005 EST (#9)
The same bias is apparent in many more aspects of the media. Have you not noticed how many advertisements for cures for male impotence make the point that wives are suffering if men "can't get it up"? As if men's sexual ability is important only in so far as it benefits women.

But on the main point of college admissions heavily favouring women, I agree the situation will have to get worse before it gets better.

But here is a thought. Any system that gets too lopsided has a habit of keeling over altogether. What might then emerge is a complete overturning of higher education. Even intelligent and well qualified young men may simply turn their backs altogether on a college system that has become so alien to male interests, and concentrate on going straight into work or continuing their education in other fields. And if no such fields exist, men will create them - because that is what men do. You just can't keep our sex down.

Employers will also realise you don't need employees with an increasingly irrelevant college qualification because highly able men are coming into the workforce without them. Female-dominated colleges may then begin to realise they are becoming marginalised and will have to get their act together properly - if it is not too late.

Just a dream? Or a premonition?
Re:More "Gee, it's gonna affect the gals badly, so (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 01:31 PM October 22nd, 2005 EST (#10)
My Brother in law has very little formal education, but that never stopped him from being a computer programer and a talented inventor.

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