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by Paul Parmenter on 01:45 PM October 16th, 2005 EST (#1)
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So now we can add the name of ROSIE WINTERTON to the disgraceful, long and ever-growing list of UK government ministers who try to hide behind lies rather than admit to the bias in their policies. But this time she has miscalculated badly as the facts show up her misandry.
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by Anonymous User on 03:05 PM October 16th, 2005 EST (#2)
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One of the arguments women often use against this discrepancy is that Prostate cancer usually attacks older men when other diseases are already killing them, while breast cancer typically attacks younger women. Thus they argue that funding is more effective on breast cancer.
This obviously ignores the fact that this breathtaking discrimination means that younger men like Lance Armstrong and Norman Schwarzkopf (he was in his 50s)suffer from the lack of progress in treating this disease.
What's more galling is that I recently saw a front page headline in the UK's Daily Mail claiming that women are discriminated in heart disease research. The article points out that women typically get heart disease 10 years later than men and so male healthcare professionals have ignored them. This is obviously unacceptable when it hapens to women, but a perfectly legitimate excuse when applied to prostate cancer and men.
Women are the biggest hypocrites on the planet, and don't even realise it.
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by Anonymous User on 03:33 PM October 16th, 2005 EST (#3)
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Now, Now.
We're not ALL bad.
Some of us are with you.
Jinx
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by Anonymous User on 04:07 PM October 16th, 2005 EST (#5)
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Sorry - I know.
Should have qualified it to say *some* women.
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by Anonymous User on 04:51 PM October 16th, 2005 EST (#6)
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Prove it by getting rid of the 19th ammendment (women's vote).
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by Anonymous User on 09:04 AM October 17th, 2005 EST (#7)
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Stop women's suffaging now!
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by Anonymous User on 01:25 PM October 17th, 2005 EST (#11)
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by Anonymous User on 01:24 PM October 17th, 2005 EST (#10)
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It's worked well for women, and it worked well for men of the past (think: before chilvary).
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by Anonymous User on 01:27 PM October 17th, 2005 EST (#12)
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Who ever said anything about equality?
Death To women's Rights.
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by Anonymous User on 06:51 PM October 17th, 2005 EST (#14)
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"One of the arguments women often use against this discrepancy is that Prostate cancer usually attacks older men when other diseases are already killing them, while breast cancer typically attacks younger women. Thus they argue that funding is more effective on breast cancer."
My pysche teacher, who is a man, while discussing things pertaining to the "inner self" used that argument you attibuted to women which earned a resounding "huh?" from the classroom ... made up of mostly young women.
- young lurking woman
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by Anonymous User on 01:54 PM October 18th, 2005 EST (#15)
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I don't understand your point young lurking woman (!)
Did he apply in favour of men at the expense of women, or agree with the above fallacious argument where it actually kills men?
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by nivosus on 03:50 PM October 16th, 2005 EST (#4)
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Actually, the notion that breast cancer is a disease of the young, more so than prostate cancer, is not supported by most data. The average age of those diagnosed is in the mid-60s, while the average age for men diagnosed with prostate cancer is in the late-60s. Also, the American Cancer Society states that 1 out of 6 men will be diagnosed with prostate cancer during their lifetime, while 1 out of 7 women will be diagnosed with breast cancer during their lifetime. It's another case of politics trumping the data.
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by zerostress on 11:49 AM October 17th, 2005 EST (#9)
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It look as if this phenomena is worldwide. There was an article in a French Canadian newspaper on the 14 of October about how the Governement of Quebec is refunding Zometa, an effective but expensive medicament (590 $ CDN for one monthly injection), to women victims of breast cancer but not to men victim of breast cancer.
It is also a well know fact that research funds in Canada is 10 times the amount for breast cancer than prostate cancer, even though the number of death are roughly the same.
The more it change, the more it stay the same.
Zerostress
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by Anonymous User on 04:21 PM October 17th, 2005 EST (#13)
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Good post. One correction: Lance Armstrong suffered from testicular cancer, I believe. (Intent here is to be helpful, not picky. I believe we have enough evidence to support your point anyway, w/o using Lance's particular case).
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by n.j. on 05:50 PM October 18th, 2005 EST (#16)
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..are supported by health care for men 45+ and women 30+, in spite of it affecting both sexes in an equal manner.
The reason for this is that the age was lowered several times for women, probably as a result of the work of "women's groups", and it simply wasn't for men.
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by Anonymous User on 03:34 PM October 19th, 2005 EST (#17)
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Yesterday, the UK Times printed a letter from a FINAL YEAR (!) female medical student in response to this article. She trotted out the usual defences of the situation - the key one being that there is no recognised, successful screening method for prostate cancer, whereas there is for breast cancer. Ergo, the money goes where it's most useful.
I have written to the editor today pointing out that the very REASON there is no accurate realiable test for the cancer is the under investment that has happened over the years.
I have also pointed out that it doesn't bode well that one of our future female doctors is already predisposed to only one side of the argument.
Wheteher it runs or not, one more person will have heard an opposing view to the orthodoxy.
Rob
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