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by Anonymous User on 12:44 PM August 23rd, 2005 EST (#1)
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I wonder if this story will make it in the media.
My guess is it won't, or if it does, instead of focusing on the brave young boy, they'll focus on the idiots that did the shooting.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 03:24 PM August 23rd, 2005 EST (#2)
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The headline will read -- "Boy To Be Tried for Sexual Assault in Drive-by Shooting."
Chivalry is a wonderous thing, yes?
What scares me most is the idea that men can't ever get over it.
It may be genetic?
Lyndie England was counting on that when she murdered her team by failing to correctly read a map....
(Roy)
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by bluprint on 09:42 AM August 25th, 2005 EST (#4)
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I'm all for equal rights and stuff...and I certainly take the position that "the pendulum has swung in the other direction so to speak", but come on.
Part of the problem men have these days is their own pussification. Stop being a pussy. If a woman is in trouble, help. Open doors. Be a man. That boy is apparently more of a man than the submitter.
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by radikal on 10:26 AM August 25th, 2005 EST (#5)
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Huh? That's a strange response. At nowhere do I say that it was wrong to do what he did, so how does that make me less of a man? Please slow down, Bluprint. You may be reading too deeply into it all.
With empowerment comes responsibility.
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by Anonymous User on 10:44 AM August 25th, 2005 EST (#6)
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Yeah.
Who said that the boy did something WRONG?
He did something RIGHT. But the point is males do this sort of thing fairly frequently, but it rarely makes the national news.
Instead the wrong males do gets banner headlines, the good that males do gets buried on page 109 or ignored all together.
Conversely, every time a female blinks her eyes the media falls all over it's self to make her out to be a "hero".
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by bluprint on 12:07 PM August 25th, 2005 EST (#7)
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Define syndrome:
"The group or recognizable pattern of symptoms or abnormalities that indicate a particular trait or disease"
I didn't look through every definition, but I think it's safe to say, in addition to those definitions, that in the common vernacular, syndrome can only carry a negative meaning. What is "Hero Syndrome"? Is that a clinically recognized term? What did you mean by that?
Syndrome implies "something wrong", at least to most of us. The boy tried to protect the girl. You call it a syndrome, implying there was something wrong with that (or perhaps, something wrong with his motivation for doing so). If that's not the way you felt, maybe you should have used a different word.
Men have more and/or different responsibilities. In my personal opinion, I kind of view it as a "seperate but equal" thing. Men should protect women, even at the cost of their own lives. In this case, it's the man's responsibility to protect her. But even if we don't apply that ethic to everyone, what could possibly be the justification for demeaning this particular act?
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by Anonymous User on 02:21 PM August 25th, 2005 EST (#10)
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Right now the "protectors" (men) need to focus on protecting THEMSELVES against the "protectees". (feminists and like-minded women)
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by Uberganger on 08:28 AM August 26th, 2005 EST (#17)
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In my personal opinion, I kind of view it as a "seperate but equal" thing. Men should protect women, even at the cost of their own lives.
So what is it that women do that is "seperate but equal" to men getting killed? It's astonishing that anyone can come out with such retarded crap. It reminds me of something the female host of some American TV show said on the subject of the 353 firemen who died when the World Trade Centre collapsed. She said, "This shows that men can make sacrifices too." You might want to check out some of my recent posts about the nature of higher values. In essence, only men have higher values because only men are held to the consequences of those values; such values in women are just an affectation. You can prove me wrong by answering the question at the start of this paragraph.
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by Anonymous User on 01:03 PM August 25th, 2005 EST (#8)
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"Be a man."
In the concentration camps where the Jews (and others) were imprisoned, the Nazis mockingly put the slogan "arbeit macht frei" on the gates.
The feminazi exhortation to todays inmates (ie men) of todays camps (Western gynocracies) is the equally mocking slogan "be a man".
Try telling a woman to accept the traditional burdens of womanhood. Try telling a woman to "be a woman".
By advocating men should fulfill traditional male duty, you are supporting the feminist view that men should be second class citizens, in view of the fact that women have long abandoned traditional female duty.
Hotspur
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by bluprint on 01:49 PM August 25th, 2005 EST (#9)
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"arbeit macht frei"
That might be more pertinent if you interpreted it.
"Try telling a woman to accept the traditional burdens of womanhood. Try telling a woman to "be a woman". "
Being the protector is (I'm assuming you are a man) your birthright...and responsibility, whether you accept it or not. Stop buying the crap the feminist movement has been forcing down your throat. They have been working for years to take away from men. To make men and women the same. We aren't the same and they will never take away from me the fact that I will always open the door and protect a woman at any cost. If being a "second class citizen" is the cost of being a good person, then so be it.
At then end of the day, after all the rhetoric, even the most hard core femenist women that I've met appreciate good mannners and a man that acts like a man, despite what they might say.
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by Anonymous User on 02:28 PM August 25th, 2005 EST (#11)
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Not when so many of these "women" are trying to take away what few constitutional and civil rights I as an American Indian male have.
We Indians more or less just GOT those rights, and now "women" (feminist ones) are trying to take those rights away.
No. I will NOT be the protectors of those who try to destroy me.
That is like giving aid and comfort to the enemy during war.
I will NOT commit gender-treason. (Or racial- treason for that matter.)
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 02:59 PM August 25th, 2005 EST (#12)
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"Arbeit macht frei" means "Work makes you free"
My guess is that you are fairly new to Mensactivism. From your post, I see you are a traditionalist.
Feminism is NOT about equality. Feminism is the total liberation of women from traditional gender disadvantage whilst simultaneously rigorously enforcing gender disadvantage as it applies to men. Thus, contrary to what you say, feminists do not want to end male chivalry.
Since you support male chivalry, I dont know why you post to a mens rights site which believes in mens equality.
You should feel right at home in todays feminist society where you will have ample opportunity to display you chivalry.
Consider the chivalrous male who develops a male cancer. He dies with a chivalrous smile on his face, in the knowledge that the late diagnosis was because all the funding went to screening female cancers.
Then there is the chivalrous male who is falsely accused of rape. He happily, and chivalrously, rots in jail because he knows judges must always believe what the woman says. After all females must be protected at all cost, even if that means sacrificing thousands of innocent men.
Think of the joy of all those thousands of homeless chivalrous men on the streets who lost their jobs because discriminatory feminist employment policies. Their wish to be sacrificed on the altar of female prosperity has been fulfilled! Dont you see the joy in their eyes as they see all those women drive by in their mercedes!
Think of all those men separated from their children. You see, women dont just want you to "open the door". They want you to also go out the door, close it behind you and not come back. They will of course grant you the privilege of paying out vast amounts of money to support them and their new partners (male or female) who may be abusing your children. As a chivalrous male, this scenario has great appeal for you. After all a man is just a piece of meat to be sacrificed for the benefit of women.
You acknowledge that chivalry will mean your becoming a second class citizen. You say that you are willing to be a second class citizen if this is the price of being good. But the feminazi policy of enforced chivalry will in time make men third class citizens, then fourth class citizens and eventually non citizens. I suspect there will come a time when you say "enough is enough". There will come a time when you realise chivalry is no more than slavery.
Hotspur
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by Anonymous User on 03:28 PM August 25th, 2005 EST (#13)
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Well said, Hotspur.
Also you have perfectly described what a Wussie-poopie is, better than I have ever been able to.
Thanks! :-)
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 04:19 PM August 25th, 2005 EST (#14)
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Thanks, TC. It drives me up the wall when I hear people come out with "be a man" claptrap. I am a man, and being a man does not mean being a doormat.
Hotspur
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by Anonymous User on 07:02 PM August 26th, 2005 EST (#19)
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Bluprint,
It wasn't the first time I was spat at for opening a shopping mall door for a 'lady' or even a second time when the spit actually hit me ( I was 12 by the way) It was the third time when I was slapped for trying to be curtious and open the door.
NEVER AGAIN!
I too was raised (or rather conditioned) to treat women with more respect than other men. As I aged I learned to think for myself instead of digesting all the bullshit force fed to me. We live a society that says it's wrong to treat all people born into a certain birth group as the same so why should women be exempt?
They shouldn't.
Chilvary and its variants are PRIVIAGES not rights!! I still try to treat people with respect and take care of individual women but I sure as hell will not give the whole lot of them my respect for nothing. Women as a whole will have to EARN our respect for them back.
FAT CHANCE OF THAT.
Big J from Canada
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by Anonymous User on 02:38 AM August 26th, 2005 EST (#15)
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She's going be pro-women's rights so it's better if she was capped.
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by Uberganger on 07:42 AM August 26th, 2005 EST (#16)
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Sounds like the same moron I've just commented on in relation to two other postings on the subject of killing women. I know there are people who push the idiot button from time to time, but this loser seems to have it permanently taped down.
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by Anonymous User on 01:33 PM August 26th, 2005 EST (#18)
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I think our troll has some serious mental issues. We've been getting a lot of these goof-balls, lately.
Go to a shrink, troll. Or go have a cup of coffee with some cream in it, or SOMETHING...!
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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