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by Anonymous User on 12:51 PM June 21st, 2005 EST (#1)
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Just a suggestion....
Most Senators and State Reps check and assess (if not value) the input from their voter constituencies over "national" comments, input, etc.
So, in addition to/or alternatively -- to calling the D.C. office, contact your Senator's State offices and contact your House Rep's District office.
These links are available from the sites RADAR posted above.
Further --
You can look up the staff directories for these elected pols and ask to speak directly with their chief of staff or district liaison.
I've heard that FAXES are given more consideration than e-mails and phone calls, but don't know for sure.
At this point, an all-out "Shock and Awe" strategy composed of thousands of e-mails, phonecalls, faxes, and requested personal visits would be an appropriate first-wave assault on these feminists-in-disguise.
Sadly, almost all are men who today intend to vote "Yes" for VAWA 2005 and will not lose a moment of sleep pondering the effects of their complicity.
(Roy)
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by Anonymous User on 10:35 PM June 21st, 2005 EST (#7)
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"Most Senators and State Reps check and assess (if not value) the input from their voter constituencies over "national" comments, input, etc."
In his book "Hardball," Chris Matthews points out that all politics is local. If there is a protest in Senator XYZ's district, while Senator XYZ is in Washington, the protest becomes somewhat of a rear guard attack. ...and you bet they are concerned about what their constituents are doing in their district.
I wonder what Sen XYZ would think if I stood in front of his/her office with a big sign saying, "Politicians are sexist and hateful against men."
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 06:07 PM June 22nd, 2005 EST (#10)
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VAWA 2005 has been introduced into the House of Representatives, by a Republican male from Wisconsin, Mark Green.
The bill has 34 co-sponsors, divided fairly equally among male/female & Democrat/Republican credentials.
The men's rights movement clearly cannot count upon either major party for support, unless pressure is applied massively.
H.R. 2876 can be found on Thomas.gov web site.
Co-sponsors are --
Rep Bachus, Spencer [R- AL]
Rep Bass, Charles F. [R- NH]
Rep Bonner, Jo [R- AL]
Rep Boustany, Charles W., Jr. [R- LA]
Rep Brown-Waite, Ginny [R- FL]
Rep Capito, Shelley Moore [R-WV]
Rep Capps, Lois [D- CA]
Rep Case, Ed [D-HI]
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [D-MI]
Rep Costa, Jim [D-CA]
Rep DeLauro, Rosa L. [D-CT]
Rep Emerson, Jo Ann [R-MO]
Rep Filner, Bob [D-CA]
Rep Foley, Mark [R-FL]
Rep Granger, Kay [R-TX]
Rep Harman, Jane [D-CA]
Rep Hart, Melissa A. [R-PA]
Rep Kelly, Sue W. [R-NY]
Rep Larsen, Rick [D-WA]
Rep Larson, John B. [D-CT]
Rep Maloney, Carolyn B. [D-NY]
Rep McCarthy, Carolyn [D-NY]
Rep McCaul, Michael T. [R-TX]
Rep Michaud, Michael H. [D-ME]
Rep Moran, James P. [D-VA]
Rep Poe, Ted [R-TX]
Rep Pryce, Deborah [R-OH]
Rep Reichert, David G. [R-WA]
Rep Sessions, Pete [R-TX]
Rep Slaughter, Louise McIntosh [D-NY]
Rep Solis, Hilda L. [D-CA]
Rep Udall, Tom [D-NM]
Rep Van Hollen, Chris [D-MD]
Rep Wilson, Heather [R-NM]
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by Anonymous User on 02:41 PM June 21st, 2005 EST (#2)
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Look. Phone calls DO NOT WORK. Only FAX’es and letters or maybe....just maybe...an email. Most times emails go into the computer’s trash bin because there is so much mass junk email.
It works like this. They (your personal legislator) gets a fax or letter and it goes into a pile (pro or con) for the VAWA bill. By LAW it is required to be counted and the comments considered in the analysis presented to any committees.
If they get an email then there is no law requiring that the administrative assistant print out the email. Worse, there is no law requiring that it be counted.
PHONE CALLS SIMPLY WILL NOT BE COUNTED. THEY ARE A WASTE TIME. THEY ARE NOT FORWARDED TO THE ANALYSTS. ONLY AMATURES WOULD RECOMMEND A PHONE CALL.
You must send a FAX or letter to be guaranteed ANY representation. When you send a FAX or letter, at the least a copy is required by law to be sent to the various committees considering the legislation so they can read the input. It is only by sending written comments that your input will be considered.
Gees! And you guys actually think you can get males equal consideration under the VAWA without following my recommendations. NOT!
Amatures!
Warble
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by Anonymous User on 03:40 PM June 21st, 2005 EST (#3)
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While I appreciate the sage advice, it's --
"amateur"
As in, inexperienced or lacking in competence while striving for mastery of a subject.
Like maybe s-p-e-l-l-i-n-g?
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by HombreVIII on 04:40 PM June 21st, 2005 EST (#4)
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It sounds like you have some experience in this sort of thing. You're right, RADAR is an amatuer organization, they've only been around a short time and I don't think they're getting much, (if any), funding. I'd like to see them become a stronger organization. Would you write them and share with them any advice you think may help? They could use your knowledge about this.
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by Anonymous User on 09:05 PM June 21st, 2005 EST (#6)
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I was under the assumption that they would read the comments to this site since they are posting here.
If that is false then they are wasting their time and resources.
Their failure to read our comments would explain why such an amateur request would have been made.
Finally, I’ve had the experience of spending $15k of my own money on the MRA cause, but after having other amateur activists lobby against my efforts rather than maintaining a united front, after having other MRA members fake letters and make phone calls claiming they were me in front of the Sacramento Marxist-Feminists as I was gaining influence and credibility, the answer is no they can read my comments here.
Someday, when we have enough men that are fed-up I'll start making donations to support a professional lobbyist. Until then, MRA's are screwed. All these amateurs are just screwing us over despite their good intensions. They are at best making us appear to be fools with only a few exceptions like Marc Angelucci of NCFM, LA.
Warble
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by Anonymous User on 08:25 AM June 22nd, 2005 EST (#9)
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"...but after having other amateur activists lobby against my efforts rather than maintaining a united front, after having other MRA members fake letters and make phone calls claiming they were me in front of the Sacramento Marxist-Feminists as I was gaining influence and credibility, the answer is no they can read my comments here."
Truth is, the Red Fems love to get delusional marks who are divisive to MRA's, actively working hard in the political arena. Nothing is more valuable to them than an unstable, easy mark who eagerly bashes his own group and doesn't have an inkling of what cooperation or team work is about.
Cooperation and team work are critical as the men's movement struggles to define the issues and have a voice, while the massive Red Fem movement strives to discredit every effort of MRA's.
While every person is valuable to the men's movement, somehow I don't think we'll have any trouble at all struggling on in our “amateurish” way without your presumptuously "omniscient" guidance. Arrogant, assertive advice of such questionable value as yours is merely sabotage of the men’s movement by fiat. Come back when you are humble enough to interact with others, not so delusionally full of themselves, that they condescend to call their equals amateurs.
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by Anonymous User on 07:57 AM June 22nd, 2005 EST (#8)
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"Only FAX’es and letters or maybe....just maybe...an email. Most times emails go into the computer’s trash bin because there is so much mass junk email.
If they get an email then there is no law requiring that the administrative assistant print out the email. Worse, there is no law requiring that it be counted.
PHONE CALLS SIMPLY WILL NOT BE COUNTED. THEY ARE A WASTE TIME. THEY ARE NOT FORWARDED TO THE ANALYSTS. ONLY AMATURES WOULD RECOMMEND A PHONE CALL."
Glenn Sacks and his Sackson hoard seem to be doing okay with emails and phone calls. They get their messages through or tie up lines to elected reps. I agree that the emails are more effective than the phone calls and that letters and FAXes are better than emails and phone calls, but calling other dedicated MRA’s amateurs? Come on, who died and made you the Chief legislative analyst and lobbyist of the men's movement? It’s not very effective at all to speak so condescendingly to the constituents. As an MRA you have a lot to learn so you appear very presumptuous when you give your impertinent chides to other MRA’s.
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by Anonymous User on 04:37 AM June 25th, 2005 EST (#11)
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As long as there’s an elected representative in congress who votes for VAWA there’ll be a Nazi in the U.S. government.
Ray
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The Violence Against Women Act was re-introduced in the Senate and House last week. The number of the Senate bill is S. 1197, and the number of the House bill is H.R. 2876.