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by mcc99 on 01:04 PM April 9th, 2005 EST (#1)
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... what a truly pathetic excuse for a human being. I'll bet she won't spend more than a week (if that) long in custody and will end up paying almost nothing back to the public whom she has defrauded.
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by Luek on 03:26 PM April 9th, 2005 EST (#2)
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Nall could spend up to a year in jail and be forced to pay back tens of thousands of dollars police spent of the investigation.
Fat chance of her spending anytime in jail or paying back tax money squandered in the investigation. Of course there will not be any op-ed pieces in the media about the pressing need to criminalize false rape accusations either.
If she wanted to make a statement about rape as the article says then she should have made a marital rape accusation against her smucky looking husband who is pictured beside her. She would have probably gotten away with it.
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by Anonymous User on 03:46 PM April 9th, 2005 EST (#3)
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After she reads your comment I wouldn't be surprised if she tried that too! :)
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 01:10 AM April 10th, 2005 EST (#4)
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This woman is a piece of shit. Er, sorry I mean victim of the phallocentric hierarchy. This whole incident is a product of the patriarchal values inherent in the established social order. She should be regarded as the victim in this. In fact more than that, she should be regarded as a courageous social reformer bravely attempting to subvert the oppressive phallo-capitalist system. I think the government should compensate her for her pains. She should be made a Women's Studies professor, so that she can pass on her wisdom and feminist spirit to other young women.
"Never tolerate psychotic behaviour no matter how good she is in bed." Thomas Ellis
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by Konovan on 12:49 PM April 10th, 2005 EST (#5)
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Don't forget to keep heterocentric gender-norming out of her pro-woman, pro-environment, pro-minority, pro-peace, pro-worker paradigm.
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 06:11 AM April 11th, 2005 EST (#10)
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Indeed.
"Never tolerate psychotic behaviour no matter how good she is in bed." Thomas Ellis
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by Anonymous User on 12:56 PM April 10th, 2005 EST (#6)
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If women want to be believed about rape, they should try somthing novel, like, oh, I don't know, maybe TELLING THE TRUTH from the start!!
The best way to have your cause lose credibility is to LIE about it.
Even though it is a slow prosses, note that gender feminism and gender feminists as a whole ARE begining to lose credibility.
In my own humble opinion they never had much to begin with...,
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 02:34 PM April 10th, 2005 EST (#7)
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Scientists have developed an artificial womb that allows embryos to grow outside the body
Talk about it here
Robin McKie
Sunday February 10, 2002
The Observer
Doctors are developing artificial wombs in which embryos can grow outside a woman's body. The work has been hailed as a breakthrough in treating the childless.
Scientists have created prototypes made out of cells extracted from women's bodies. Embryos successfully attached themselves to the walls of these laboratory wombs and began to grow. However, experiments had to be terminated after a few days to comply with in-vitro fertilisation (IVF) regulations.
'We hope to create complete artificial wombs using these techniques in a few years,' said Dr Hung-Ching Liu of Cornell University's Centre for Reproductive Medicine and Infertility. 'Women with damaged uteruses and wombs will be able to have babies for the first time.'
The pace of progress in the field has startled experts. Artificial wombs could end many women's childbirth problems - but they also raise major ethical headaches which will be debated at a major international conference titled 'The End of Natural Motherhood?' in Oklahoma next week.
'There are going to be real problems,' said organiser Dr Scott Gelfand, of Oklahoma State University. 'Some feminists even say artificial wombs mean men could eliminate women from the planet and still perpetuate our species. That's a bit alarmist. Nevertheless, this subject clearly raises strong feelings.'
Liu's work involves removing cells from the endometrium, the lining of the womb. 'We have learnt how to grow these cells in the laboratory using hormones and growth factors,' she said.
After this Liu and her colleagues grew layers of these cells on scaffolds of biodegradable material which had been modelled into shapes mirroring the interior of the uterus. The cells grew into tissue and the scaffold dissolved. Then nutrients and hormones such as oestrogen were added to the tissue.
'Finally, we took embryos left over from IVF programmes and put these into our laboratory engineered tissue. The embryos attached themselves to the walls of our prototype wombs and began to settle there.'
The experiments were halted after six days. However, Liu now plans to continue with this research and allow embryos to grow in the artificial wombs for 14 days, the maximum permitted by IVF legislation. 'We will then see if the embryos put down roots and veins into our artificial wombs' walls, and see if their cells differentiate into primitive organs and develop a primitive placenta.'
The immediate aim of this work is to help women whose damaged wombs prevent them from conceiving. An artificial womb would be made from their own endometrium cells, an embryo placed inside it, and allowed to settle and grow before the whole package is placed back in her body.
'The new womb would be made of the woman's own cells. so there would be no danger of organ rejection,' Liu added.
However, her research is currently limited by IVF legislation. 'The next stage will involve experiments with mice or dogs. If that works, we shall ask to take our work beyond the 14-day limit now imposed on such research.'
A different approach has been taken by Yoshinori Kuwabara at Juntendo University in Tokyo. His team has removed foetuses from goats and placed them in clear plastic tanks filled with amniotic fluid stabilised at body temperature. In this way, Kuwabara has kept goat foetuses alive and growing for up to 10 days by connecting their umbilical cords to machines that pump in nutrients and dispose of waste.
While Liu's work is aimed at helping those having difficulty conceiving, Kuwabara's is designed to help women who suffer miscarriages or very premature births. In this way Liu is extending the time an embryo can exist in a laboratory before being placed in a woman's body; Kuwabara is trying to give a foetus a safe home if expelled too early from its natural womb.
Crucially, both believe artificial wombs capable of sustaining a child for nine months will become reality in a few years.
'Essentially research is moving towards the same goal but from opposite directions,' UK fertility expert Dr Simon Fishel, of Park Hospital, Nottingham, said. 'Getting them to meet in the middle will not be easy, however. There are so many critical stages of pregnancy, and so many factors to get right. Nevertheless, this work is very exciting.'
It also has serious ethical implications, as Gelfand pointed out. 'For a start, there is the issue of abortion. A woman is usually allowed to have one on the grounds she wants to get rid of something alien inside her own body.
'At present, this means killing the foetus. But if artificial wombs are developed, the foetus could be placed in one, and the woman told she has to look after it once it has developed into a child.'
In addition, if combined with cloning technology, artificial wombs raise the prospect that gay couples could give 'birth' to their own children. 'This would no doubt horrify right-wingers, while the implications for abortion law might well please them,' he added.
Gelfand also warned that artificial wombs could have unexpected consequences for working women and health insurance. 'They would mean that women would no longer need maternity leave - which employers could become increasingly reluctant to give.
'It may also turn out that artificial wombs provide safer environments than natural wombs which can be invaded by drugs and alcohol from a mother's body. Health insurance companies could actually insist that women opt for the artificial way.
'Certainly, this is going to raise a lot of tricky problems.'
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by Anonymous User on 09:34 PM April 10th, 2005 EST (#8)
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"Artificial wombs could end many women's childbirth problems..."
They will still need a male sperm donor so why should men also not be entitled to have children without the encumbrance of a money-motivated wife?
Many men would love to have children (male or female) without the dangerous potential of a profiteering wife hanging over his head, waiting to destroy him in family court.
If life can be grown artificially combining an element from each of the sexes, the service should be made available to both sexes. The first day a business opens in California, I suspect a Men's Rights Activist will be there to test for discrimination under the Unruh Act, and be willing to file suit if there is discrimination in services based on sex.
R
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by Anonymous User on 03:39 PM April 11th, 2005 EST (#14)
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'There are going to be real problems,' said organiser Dr Scott Gelfand, of Oklahoma State University. 'Some feminists even say artificial wombs mean men could eliminate women from the planet and still perpetuate our species. That's a bit alarmist. Nevertheless, this subject clearly raises strong feelings.'
This laughable quote clearly shows that feminists continue to project their own hysterical paranoia about the Evil Patriarchy onto male humankind in general.
I've never met a man, even the most radical MRA, who's advocated "eliminating women from the planet..."
I have however met more than a few men of all political persuasions who would endorse the extermination of feminism and its apparatus of gender hatred and discrimination.
Perhaps artificial wombs could eventually be bio-engineered to innoculate the fetus against the feminist virus?
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by Anonymous User on 11:37 PM April 10th, 2005 EST (#9)
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If they can perfect the transfer of an embryo/ fetus from a natural womb to an artificial womb, it could replace abortion.
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by Anonymous User on 06:25 AM April 11th, 2005 EST (#11)
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Those who seek abortions are too selfish to consider that option.
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by Anonymous User on 01:35 PM April 11th, 2005 EST (#12)
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*Phew* Who cut the cheese...?!?
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by Anonymous User on 03:23 PM April 11th, 2005 EST (#13)
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>"*Phew* Who cut the cheese...?!?"
...Huh...?
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Boy Genteel on 09:24 PM April 11th, 2005 EST (#17)
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...how is your mom? I've been thinking about you...
bg
Men are from EARTH. Women are from EARTH. Deal with it.
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by Anonymous User on 10:49 AM April 12th, 2005 EST (#21)
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Boy Genteel-
Thank you for asking.
She is doing much better now. She is out of the hospital and recovering nicely. She is back to her old grouchy self. :-) Fortunaltly, (if you want to call it that) her penumonia was bactirial not viral, so the antibiotics they gave her helped alot, as did the prayers that were made for her.
Thanks to you and anyone else who prayed for her when things looked dark!
Thundercloud.
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by HombreVIII on 12:32 AM April 12th, 2005 EST (#18)
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"Those who seek abortions are too selfish to consider that option."
True, but then they have hard times making arguments like "a woman's body, a woman's choice", since this is a way to remove the fetus from the body without killing it. Now, they would have to admit that killing the fetus is the "choice" they confuse with a right.
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by Anonymous User on 04:43 PM April 11th, 2005 EST (#15)
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Most single Japanese women prefer not to marry and believe they can live happily alone for the rest of their life, a poll showed Friday, casting another shadow on the future of a country plagued by a falling birthrate.
About seven in ten single Japanese women surveyed by the conservative Yomiuri newspaper said they would rather stay unwed.
"The result reflects a recent trend among single women who no longer attach social stigma to choosing the single life," the daily said.
Japan's government is struggling to stem a tumbling birthrate and keep the population from shrinking.
The country's fertility rate -- the average number of children born to a woman during her lifetime -- fell to 1.29 in 2003, the lowest in the post-World War II period.
In Tokyo, the figure was a startling 0.9987.
Underscoring concerns that an aging population may dent future growth in the world's second-largest economy, Japan said Monday that its population grew only 0.05 percent in the year to Oct. 1, its slowest increase in 54 years. Japan's population totaled an estimated 127,687,000 as of Oct. 1, 2004.
A government think tank has forecast that Japan's population will peak in 2006 and start to shrink the following year.
If present trends persist, the population would fall to about 100.6 million in 2050. Among oft-cited reasons for the falling birthrate are higher education levels, changing attitudes toward marriage and individual freedom, the high financial burden of child rearing, and the hardships involved for working women given long hours on the job and a persistent dearth of daycare.
The Yomiuri said 74 percent of surveyed men and women in their 20s said they believe women can be happy unmarried, while the rate dropped to 66 percent of those in their 30s and 58 percent in their 40s. "The result depicted a tendency among younger generations to remain single, leading observers to the conclusion that the number of people who marry late will further increase and will lower the birthrate," the newspaper said.
Unless steps are taken, the shortage of children will create problems for Japan including damage to its economic growth prospects, higher social welfare costs for individuals, and even psychological problems from poorly socialized youth, said a government white paper released in October.
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by Anonymous User on 10:53 AM April 12th, 2005 EST (#22)
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I wonder how much of that is due to feminism.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 04:44 PM April 11th, 2005 EST (#16)
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Lustless matches put country on brink of demographic disaster
Justin McCurry in Tokyo
Monday April 4, 2005
The Guardian
Like many Japanese women, Junko waited until her early 30s to get married. When she and her fiance, an employee of a well-known firm, decided to tie the knot, she set her sights on making a home, putting away some money and starting a family.
Fifteen years later, Junko and her husband are childless. It is not that they cannot have children; it is just that they have never had sex.
Article continues
The sexless marriage is one of several reasons why experts fear Japan is on the verge of a demographic disaster.
In 2003 Japan's birthrate hit a record low of 1.29 - the average number of times a woman gives birth during her lifetime - one of the lowest rates in the world, according to the cabinet office. The population will peak next year at about 128 million, then decline to just over 100 million by 2050.
The 200 women a year who seek help at a clinic in the Tokyo suburbs have not had sex with their husbands in up to 20 years, and some never, according to Kim Myong-gan, who runs the clinic.
"The women who come to see me love their husbands and aren't looking for a divorce," he told the Guardian. "The problem is that their husbands lose interest in sex or don't want sex from the start. Many men think of their wives as substitute mothers, not as women with emotional and sexual needs."
Mr Kim's short-term solution is unconventional. After an initial 20,000 yen (£100) counselling session, he produces photographs of 45 men, mostly professionals in their 40s, with whom the women are invited to go on dates and then, in almost all cases, arrange regular assignations in hotel rooms.
Mr Kim dismissed charges that his service was little more than a male prostitution ring. "The men volunteer and pay half the hotel and restaurant bills, so legally there is absolutely nothing wrong with it," he said.
He had rescued hundreds of women from despair, he said, but his "sex volunteers" would do nothing to cure the malaise that afflicts the institution of marriage in Japan.
The number of married couples is in rapid decline. In 2000 almost 70% of men and 54% of women between 25 and 29 were unmarried. That bodes ill for the birthrate, as conservative Japanese society frowns upon having children outside marriage.
A survey of 600 women found that 26% had not had sex with their husbands in the past year.
"We are sort of room-mates rather than a married couple," one 31-year-old man, who had not had sex with his wife for two years, told the Asahi Shimbun newspaper.
The government has introduced several measures to lift the birthrate. Fathers will be encouraged to take more than the 47% of annual paid leave they currently use, and their employers will be told to provide more opportunities for them to stay at home with their children.
Local authorities, meanwhile, are devising novel ways to increase fertility. In the town of Yamatsuri women will receive 1m yen if they have a third child, and in Ishikawa prefecture families with three children will get discounts at shops and restaurants.
The absence of children in so many homes is having an impact. Fun parks are closing and there are signs that the "exam hell" teenagers go through to secure places at top schools and universities is less of an ordeal because the competition is less fierce.
The divorce rate has nearly doubled in the past 10 years, with more women blaming their sexually inactive, as opposed to sexually errant, husbands for break-ups.
"The men love their companies; they live for work," Mr Kim said. "Men don't even think it is a problem if they don't have sex with their wives. They have pornography and the sex industry to take care of their needs, but their wives have nowhere to go. They just suffer in silence."
The entire Western civilization is bound to end-up in the ditch. Of that I am certain.
It is only a question of time. I could bet my life on it.
The main reason for this endless gender war is …. the children. And there seems to be no limit to the hatred and the misandry.
Therefore, by suppressing the source of the pain, the pain should disappear. Shouldn`t it?
Let us stop complaining about the injustices : it`s a dead-end, and simply eradicate the source of this injustice. And if there are still women wanting children, well, there are sperm banks on every street corner. Let THEM pay for everything and let THEM do all the work of raising children. Who cares if our society collapses?
Do you?
I don`t! (In fact, I hope it will).
Who knows: maybe it`s time for the West to say good bye? Let the Muslims in: they will be the next civilzation. We have done our share. In my opinion, the white race has to disappear: it`s the only way to save humanity, or what`s left of it.
This is certainly happening already -western men going on a marriage strike and refusing to breed - and it might well become more prevalent.
And, of course, societies that embrace feminism and political correctness are doomed to extinction, because they are certainly going to be outstripped, outclassed, outgunned and outnumbered by cultures and societies that embrace the very opposite.
Meanwhile those smart politicians are thinking on making men paying higher children tax, - child support -, combined taxes arround 79-80% for fathers and death penalty for not paying those, will give a turbo boost to the birthrate.
Those naughty christians, that see male sexuality as bad and dirty, and so they pass sex laws targeting men, promoting the negative perception of male sexuality, with additional laws implemented against it. This laws combined with children tax, will accelerate the whole thing.
ISLAM IS THE FUTURE!! No doubt.
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by Kyo on 02:30 AM April 12th, 2005 EST (#19)
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This article is a pile of sensationalist tripe. Typical Guardian nonsense, some might say.
"The men love their companies; they live for work," Mr Kim said. "Men don't even think it is a problem if they don't have sex with their wives. They have pornography and the sex industry to take care of their needs, but their wives have nowhere to go. They just suffer in silence."
Japanese men don't live for work -- they're forced to work endless hours of overtime whether they like it or not. (8 AM to 11 PM is not unusual at all)
They *would* love their wives if their wives loved them back and didn't turn into money-grabbing harridans who monopolize the home as their private castle. The wives are suffering in silence? Give me a break. Wives have the opportunity to work part time, take care of the kids, etc., etc., whereas husbands work till they drop, like it or not.
Funny how the Guardian reporter never noticed that in death-from-overwork cases, men outnumber women something like 50 to 1. But it's those poor innocent wives who are suffering in silence. Right.
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by Anonymous User on 10:04 AM April 12th, 2005 EST (#20)
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The point is, that if marriage is over, women will have to work, no more parasitical females, and as long as it is painted as something that women chose, no problem, all the better then, besides it seems men do not give a shit about women sexually, wich is the only bargainning tool women have.
Most young men would agree that their sisters are barely tolerable. However, /other/ men's sisters are a source of endless wonder and fascination. What's the difference? Sex of course.
If women, deprived of their magical spell, could be seen clearly and men could concentrate on something else.
Some wisdom about it:
"sex is the biggest nothing in the world." (Andy Warhol)
Socrates said that when he no longer had a sex drive in old age, he was "released from the jaws of a wild beast."
Lord Acton:
The pleasure is fleeting, the position ridiculous, and the expense damnable.” He was being charitable. Sex is probably responsible for more misery and proportionally less pleasure than anything short of hemorrhagic tuberculosis. People jump off bridges because of it. They spend hours in meat bars talking to people they don’t like because of it. Its pursuit wastes unfathomable amounts of time. If the average man spent as many hours working as he did planning to get laid, the caloric output would upset the thermal balance of the earth.
No mariage no divorce, as easy as that, no marital assets, (men assets transfered to women of course). etc, etc.
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Ray writes "An old gender feminist mantra says, "A woman would never lie about anything as horrible as rape." And