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by TLE on 10:00 PM February 4th, 2005 EST (#3)
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It's out of my control. Hopefully when more orders arrive in Amazon, the 1-3 weeks will change to 1-3 days or less. At least that's what happens according to Amazon. We'll see. Books from the big publishers are already distributed by Ingram - and those are unlikely to be anti-feminist. Even Farrell tones it down for them.
In a couple weeks the "search inside the book" feature should kick in, so you can read parts of it without buying it.
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by Anonymous User on 11:50 AM February 5th, 2005 EST (#6)
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TLE-
How the Dickens did you find a PUBLISHER for this book?!?
Most publishers are politicaly correct morons who support feminism out the whazoo.
They will print left and right ANY and ALL anti-male, pro-female, radical feminist books. But any time a man wants to publish a book from men's point of view the publishers refuse to print it. ESPECIALY if the book critisizes women or feminism in any way shape or form. Even "mild" critisizm is rejected.
So, Wha' hoppa'??
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by TLE on 03:21 PM February 5th, 2005 EST (#11)
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You're right TC, that's why I went the route of self-publishing. It's only recently become practical with the advent of digital printing and online fulfillment like Amazon.
In fact, about a year ago I went to a local publicist, where you pay them to help you self-publish and promote your book. As are most companies in the publishing industry, this one was run by women. They were very enthusiastic on the phone, then I gave them a writing sample, and they wouldn't even answer my emails! So there!
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by Anonymous User on 11:52 AM February 6th, 2005 EST (#19)
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Typically feminist suppression of dissent. To help promote your book, you might set up a website with some excerpts, links, discussion, etc.
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by Anonymous User on 01:16 PM February 6th, 2005 EST (#20)
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Feminists WOULD burn books, like the Nazis did.
But they don't have to. Because all the books they would disagree with can't get published.
In essence, I guess you could say feminists burn books before they can BE published.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 02:31 PM February 5th, 2005 EST (#10)
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Nasty to lash at a brother like this, and counterproductive. He's a man of our tribe, try to remember that.
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by Anonymous User on 08:15 PM February 4th, 2005 EST (#2)
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I put it in my Amazon basket and will buy it the next time I've got a big order ready.
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by Anonymous User on 05:09 AM February 5th, 2005 EST (#5)
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'Cause when I order I like to get a bunch of stuff at once rather than small orders coming in one after another. I'm peculiar that way. I hadn't even thought about the shipping charges.
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by Luek on 02:32 PM February 6th, 2005 EST (#22)
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This book doesn't qualify for free shipping, so waiting for your order to reach $25 won't save you any money
I just checked the Amazon site and it says it does qualify for free shipping. So where do you get that it does not?
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by B_Riddick on 01:54 PM February 5th, 2005 EST (#7)
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Sounds like a good read, maybe I'll go down to my local Borders books and see if they have it listed in their computers yet (that way they can order it for me, and if they see it being requested, maybe they'd decide to stock it on their shelves).
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by TLE on 03:24 PM February 5th, 2005 EST (#12)
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They won't have it - this is a self-published book and it's not in the main Ingram distribution channels.
The only way it will show up in Borders or B&N is if it sells a couple thousand copies on Amazon (unlikely!) and gets picked up by a mainstream publisher.
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by TLE on 03:57 PM February 6th, 2005 EST (#23)
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You seem not to understand the limited options available to anyone trying to publish material of this nature. The big publishing houses are looking for books within the genres that are hot sellers. Right now that is diet books by famous people, political books by famous people, and inspirational books. I've read that women puchase 80% of all books, which defines the market. Feminist writers get published in part because of all the women's studies classes that will require their purchase.
Well, how did someone like Warren Farrell get published you might ask? If you recall, he originally got published in the early 70s because he wrote the pro-feminist book The Liberated Man, which called upon all of us men to embrace feminism and basically self-lobotomize ourselves to please women. Since he gained recognition from that piece of crap, he was able to publish Why Men Are the Way They Are in the mid 80s, after he realized what a crock feminism really was.
For someone like me who just wants to write a book and make it available to the public, the options are limited. I could go through iuniverse.com or xlibris.com, but that would add at least $5 to the cover price, and the shipping would not be any faster. The layout would also be very basic. They also claim part of the rights in case the book becomes popular. There are a host of self-publishing assistance companies - which will also raise the price of the book - and often they want rights to any follow-up books you may write.
If I wanted to try for a big publishing contract, I'd have to find an agent willing to back the work even though it is not of a popular genre, and then wait for 6 months for offers or rejections to come back. Even if a publisher accepted it (which is unlikely since most of them are run by women and look for books to market to women) it takes a year or more to place the book in the market.
In any case, it's unrealistic to expect any publisher to be interested in a men's rights book. In fact, as I've mentioned elsewhere, my editor made me sign an agreement not to reveal his name, as he was afraid of being blackballed by the publishing industry for his association with my book.
So, the best option for me was to self-publish under my own label and place it on Amazon so that it is at least available worldwide. The Rannenberg label won't show up on the web because I don't really want to start a publishing company, and I don't really want to mail out individual books.
Beginning next Sunday, there will be promo advertisements for the book on Glenn Sacks radio show in S. Cal, New York, and Boston. This way I get to publicize the book and also support Glenn's show. He received an anvance copy and seems to like it.
Keep in mind I've spent 2+ years full time on writing, and several thousand dollars producing this book (not counting the time spent writing it), so excuse me if it's a few dollars more than you would like, or that it might take an extra week or two to arrive.
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by Anonymous User on 01:50 AM February 7th, 2005 EST (#25)
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"Keep in mind I've spent 2+ years full time on writing, and several thousand dollars producing this book (not counting the time spent writing it), so excuse me if it's a few dollars more than you would like, or that it might take an extra week or two to arrive."
Well, you've convinced my you've made a real effort, and you've peaked my interest so I just ordered mine at Amazon.
I tend to agree with what you've said above, and salute you for the hard work, and resources you've used in getting your book to its present point.
I take my hat off to anyone who stands up to the gender feminist agenda and works to point out the plague of problems, that have befallen society as a result of that hate movement.
Sincerely, Ray
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by B_Riddick on 05:38 PM February 6th, 2005 EST (#24)
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Oh, I didn't realize that. I am ordering from Amazon then.
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I'm buying mine today.
As soon as I read it I will put a review on amazon and my guess is that it will be a very positive review!
When a man steps forward trying to spread the word for our cause it is not time to quibble over shipping costs. It's time to give him support and help spread the word. Hell if you already know most of this stuff, buy the book and give it to someone you love. People are often swayed by books much moreso than talking about it. A book makes a statement about a cause and its maturity.
Thank you Tom Ellis for making the massive effort to make this happen.
Do we have True Equality?
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by Anonymous User on 02:17 PM February 5th, 2005 EST (#9)
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Congratulations on getting your book finished and published!
I hope it is successful, and I hope your words can influence a lot of people, especially men.
Thanks for writing it.
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by Kyo on 03:48 PM February 5th, 2005 EST (#13)
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Let me add my congratulations as well, Tom. I can only dream of getting published!
It would cost a mint to ship it to me out here in Japan, so I'll have it sent to me next time I'm in the US. Looking forward to it!
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by mens_issues on 04:13 PM February 5th, 2005 EST (#15)
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I was privileged to receive a rough copy of The Rantings of a Single Male directly from Tom Ellis at a gathering after last year's first Men's Rights Congress in Washington, DC. I must say it varied from the insightful to the outrageously funny. It should ruffle some feathers in the "Politically Correct" crowd.
Steve
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by Anonymous User on 01:21 PM February 6th, 2005 EST (#21)
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I will see about getting a copy, myself.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Cain on 07:25 PM February 7th, 2005 EST (#26)
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Just wanted to applaud you on your efforts. ill definately be looking to pick up a copy.
Well done Tom
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by Cynic on 04:49 AM February 18th, 2005 EST (#28)
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I agree with what everyone is saying about shipping times. I must have ordered early 'cause I just received mine (after almost 3 weeks). The shipping times are trivial, the book's worth the wait. After cracking open the cover to check it out, I ended up sitting there reading almost the whole thing on the spot. Wow. This book cuts through the BS like nothing I've ever seen. It is ROTFLOL hilarious (because it so true), but it also systematically analyzes how and why women f*k over men, and makes it clear that they are only hurting themselves when they do. Every guy who reads this will instantly recognize hundreds of situations he's found himself in with women. Read this book and next time you are in one of those situations you'll know exactly what to do. Tom Ellis is going to become famous. I can tell you this: Every woman who discovers this book will try to destroy every copy she can find.
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