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by Anonymous User on 06:38 PM September 1st, 2004 EST (#1)
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"When referring some male and some female terrorists are threatening to blow up kids, we must call them "gunmen" and "attackers". "
This alos goes for when people talk about how terrible wars are....they are in no way gender nuetral, or equal.....But when the military and a war is talked about in the positive people say, "these hornorable men and women", or, "these great men and women who have died for our country". women are given the same exact credit as men, but not so in the negative. In fact in the negative, their gender isn't even mentioned. yet, so suprisingly there are not feminists clamoring about how women aren't given due credit...
This stuff is so obvious to me that at times reality really does border on satire to me...
p. george
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by Anonymous User on 01:20 PM September 2nd, 2004 EST (#2)
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Agreed. The whole thing is sickening.
So who wants to join me in vomiting?
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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At times I have heard comments on the media with regard to the Vietnam War about the men and women who fought. Note the "men and women" that I am emphasising. Fact is 8 women died in that war and over 54,000 men but we still refer to the "men and women" and women were not subject to the draft.
Next thing is that when the draft is reinstated and some young man dies in a war because a female draft board member denied him an exemption that he applied for, we will refer to her too as the "men and women" who fought in that war.
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by Anonymous User on 02:34 PM September 2nd, 2004 EST (#3)
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What really pissing me off is the fact that
women hide behind children and become totally
helpless, innocent and weak in cases where their
life is in danger. Always in hostage situations
women are get rescued before men, like their life
is more important!!! (32 women and children
released, by the way) Women demand equality
only when it's good for them.
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by Anonymous User on 01:53 PM September 4th, 2004 EST (#14)
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Well, you know what they say; "There were NO FEMINISTS on the TITANIC."
Women and children first. You betcha!
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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A sadly deluded loon wrote, "Oh yes, Not only does Bush havea war against the Iraqi's, but also a war against women you men will cheer."
War against women? What planet do *you* live on?
Also, men generally don't cheer at the pain or suffering of others. (Even imagined pain.) Taking pleasure in another's pain tends to be more a female trait. Ever watched men or women fight? When men fight, they tend to fight to win, and will stop when the other concedes. Women tend to fight to hurt the other person -- suffering is more important than winning.
The clinical term for attributing your own behaviour to someone else is "projection." You demonstrate it again by saying, "And now you have the nerve to complain about women not being blamed for what men do?"
Women blamed for what men do? Hellllooooo! McFly...!
Also, the term for holding beliefs that are completely unsupported by what you actually see around you is "cognitive dissonance." You can now seek professional help, which you should be able to get for free because you're female. Just make up some non-specified, generic abuse that you can blame on a man.
Women in North America are the single most privileged, pampered group that has ever existed in history. Need we list again the litany of special privileges, perks, promotions, preferential programs, and legal pandering that women enjoy? All in search of some false 'equality' because of a cherished, nurtured, and jealously guarded 'victim' status based on the trumped-up premises of the feminist Big Lie of 'patriarchal oppression?'
Gimme a break. You're already getting almost all the benefits of a modern society, mostly due to the efforts and sacrifice of men who don't get to enjoy the same benefits.
A wise man who posts here (TC) once eloquently described this as, "Women gorging themselves at the table of men's ingenuity, all the while cursing the creators of the feast." (I've always remembered that line, TC.)
Women consume far more of society's goodies than they create or contribute to. It's time they started to pull their own (not inconsiderable) weight.
Welcome to the fairness, 'equality,' compassion, and moral high-ground of the feminist aristocracy, folks.
"But, but, (sputter) I want more!
"I'm a girl!
"I'm not selfish and sexist, I'm special!
"You're just men, and it's your job to give me everything I want, and to support me, and to protect me, and to die for me, and to love me, and always to give me my way, and let me win, and tell me I'm smart, and tell me I'm pretty even when I weigh 300 lbs, and fix things for me, and make everything little thing right, and never to expect anything in return, (because then you'd be a 'controlling patriarch'), and then move out and sleep in a bus shelter whenever i feel like it, but leave all your money and your possessions and your children behind!
"Because I'm a powerful independent super grrrrl!
"And if I don't get those things RIGHT NOW, then that's just proof of the 'war against women' in our society!
"and never forget: "Ladies first!"
What incredible, appalling hubris.
Bite me. Homey don't play that.
Ragtime
The Uppity Wallet
The opinions expressed above are my own,
but you're welcome to adopt them.
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I just have to say I love this piece of writing so much I am going to print same so it is handy to read without having to boot up the computer. Never did read that quote by TC but have read many of his posts here and yes he is a smart guy for sure.
I just want to add that speaking as a man I would never in hell cheer a war against women. My mother was a woman and if not for her I would not have amounted to squat. I have always gotten on well with the opposite gender and will continue my practice of ladies first and treating them special, at the same time I am fiercly loyal to the mens movement,lest no one forget that.
Pete in Nebraska
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"I would never in hell cheer a war against women"
The mistake is to put all women in the same group, there are two types, women that work for a living, women that work to support their children, and do not steal children from men, or make men have undesired children, and female scum, parasites that profit from men labor, steal their goods, steal their children, violates their reproductive rights, those are cancer that must be eliminated.
War on feminist? war on female parasites?, ofcourse, they must pay for their crimes, their children removed from them, forced to have undesired children, denied any reproductive rights, their properties taken, forced to support men`s children, eploited as slave labor, make their lives so miserable that they will consider suicide as the only chance to improve their lives, as some eventually will do.
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by Anonymous User on 03:29 AM September 4th, 2004 EST (#12)
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by Anonymous User on 02:00 PM September 4th, 2004 EST (#15)
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Ragtime, Pete, Thanks for the compliments.
I AM blushing, now.
My guess is that miss "war against women", is actually Pheadra, she just neglected or elected to not sighn her post.
Am I right, Pheadra?
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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"Ragtime, Pete, Thanks for the compliments.
I AM blushing, now.
My guess is that miss "war against women", is actually Pheadra, she just neglected or elected to not sighn her post.
Am I right, Pheadra?"
Unfortunately, Thundercloud, there is no shortage of idiot trolls.
bg
Men are from EARTH. Women are from EARTH. Deal with it.
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Wow, the troll is actually paying attention. How exactly is Bush waging a war on women? Oh, that's right, because he feels that delivering a baby halfway and then knifing it to death is immoral. Gee, that is so sexist. Technically it is still in the mother's body, at least part of it, so she can do whatever she wants to it.
Good grief.
The Biscuit Queen
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People volunteer to replace women and children in besieged [Russian} school
http://www.rbcnews.com/free/20040902220416.shtml
The very brief news items says "people" are volunteering to take the place of men and women. But I believe it is men who are volunteering.
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Oops ...... volunteering to take the place of women and children.
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Interesting, I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for sharing it.
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by Anonymous User on 01:48 PM September 4th, 2004 EST (#13)
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Yes. thank you.
I was also un-aware of this.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 03:20 AM September 5th, 2004 EST (#17)
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I remember something similar happening in another hostage crisis several years ago. I don't know where, except seeming to recall that it was fairly rural. Instead of just taking lists of names, I distinctly remember that they were physically going house-to-house banging on doors asking for adult male "volunteers" to replace the women and/or children. At least the news account made it clear that only males need apply.
I always wondered about the "voluntary" part. I think it would be kind of difficult to refuse, especially if you were a young man with no family. At least in a small and conservatively traditional community, where people know who you are. Forever would you be known as that coward who wanted to stay at home on his couch while so-and-so's daughter took a bullet in the chest. Yes, it's your fault she died.
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From Sky news Website (16:40)
One freed hostage said a female suicide bomber accidently set off an explosion before Russian soldiers stormed the building.
Sky News 24 - Above reported about 2pm
Fox News - Above not reported while I watched
BBC 24 - Above not reported while I watched
From BBC website (16:45)
The BBC's Sarah Rainsford says a man who had been inside the building told her there had been an explosion and a wall had collapsed. This had been followed by gunfire and many more explosions.
It is unclear what caused the initial explosion.
Maybe it will be reported later
Just observations on a Sad day
Westcoast
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