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Yes this is very good for us, becasue it illustrates yet again that the media after 20 years of female bootlicking is paying a price,as men by the thousands are simply turning away.That gives us the advantage here, but not if we arent willing to take that advantage, and use it to put an end to the medias wiilingness to promote every irrational agenda put forward by womens groups.
The media by their desperate desire to re-gain our attention is at our feet gentlemen.Do we simply let this opportunity slip away.Its been through their manipulation of the media that feminism has been able to convince the western world to adopt its hypocrisy,its distorted reality,its misinformation,its out and out lies.And the only way to effectively combat feminisms strangle hold on culture is to first break its strangle hold on the media.
Its a simple thing,it just needs doing.A few focused targets, a couple dozen emails.And suddenly the advertizers are no longer as happy and secure as they once were in supporting the lies the distortions the hypocrisy,simply because they now know we are organizing.
So lets organize.
"All you fascists bound to lose" - Woody Guthrie
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Well since we moved we have not had Cable (and we missed it so much that we have not even bothered to set up an antenna for free TV). We decided that there wasn't anything on television worth watching, so why pay almost 50 bucks a month? In fact there were only a couple stations that we occasionally watched and those had only a couple programs at most that were interesting (History, Discovery, Sci-Fi, Animal Planet).
Now in the past anyone who didn't have TV access was thought of as technologically backward or too poor to pay for cable... the difference these days is that people turning off their cable aren't the backward ones, they're the leading edge IMNSHO. We've got 6 PC's (the slowest of which is a 1Ghz P3) networked via a combination of Gigabit ethernet and Wireless-G all online through DSL (although we may switch back to cable internet because it's so much faster). The days of blind consumption of what others judged we wanted, the days of mass media being able to jam it's sexist liberal agenda down our throats... they're OVER, and it's all thanks to broadband internet (which we've had for almost 10 years). CBS, NBC, ABC... they're rapidly becoming irrelevant and I LOVE it.
Dave K - A Radical Moderate
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I keep an eye on online news sources, and the nice thing is I can bounce between say Foxnews.com and CNN.com to get a balanced view of what's going on by contrasting how the exact same event is reported... without having to sit through a half hour of crap and commercials to get to what I'm interested in.
For consumer advice I find the best advice comes from... well... consumers. ;) Say I'm interested in buying some appliance, there's usually lots of sites that have customer reviews of just about anything you can imagine.
In my experience, ANY information you can get from a tv program is available online with a LOT more depth and coverage... with the exception of live broadcast events (although more and more of those are available simultaneously online... like the recently completed Tour de France)
Dave K - A Radical Moderate
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by Anonymous User on 05:12 PM July 30th, 2004 EST (#10)
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Damn, that's a good PC setup. I thought mine was quite good (2.3gig WinXP, 2.4Gig Win2k, AMDK6 Redhat 9 and Sun Ultra 30 Solaris 9 (Creator 3D)) But you've gone one better ;-)
But I use the net for all news, I can get the real stories on the net, and also find the stories which the media geldings are too scared to publish.
The media is just overrun by the PC brigade and scared to tell things as they are, I get much more info from the net.
e.g. Local Election vote tampering here in the UK with Labour Party members trying to bribe and threaten postmen into handing over to them any postal vote papers they had (this resulted in street fights between Labour and Liberal Democrat members) and paying children to go door to door stealing from peoples letter boxes. Not in any papers or on TV, but all over the net.
Red.
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by Anonymous User on 11:46 AM July 30th, 2004 EST (#6)
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I barely watch TV anymore and I sure don't watch network sitcoms. I watch Cable News (FOX), the discovery channel and sometimes a program/ Movie on Spike.
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by Anonymous User on 01:06 PM July 30th, 2004 EST (#8)
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If Hollywierd really wants male viewers they need to do what they do with female viewers, and that is; LISTEN TO YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE!!!
Men have only been complaining about the way they are depicted in the media since FOREVER!
All they (Hollywierd and the media) have to do is STOP depicting men as boobs, STOP with the male bondage scenes, STOP with the "groin kicks", STOP with the sexualized and hateful violence against men, STOP showing women beating up men, constantly, STOP dehumanizing men and STOP with the out and out anti-male bigotry.
It IS THAT SIMPLE!
As an Indian i do not watch old Westerns because of the bigoted way my people are depicted in those movies. I don't want to sit and watch my people getting shot off horses, tied up, beaten up and de-humanized. and i don't want to sit and watch my people depicted as savages and dim-wits who can't even speak the Queen's English correctly. (Ugh!, How!, Me want-um, etc.)
It is no different as a man.
As a man I do not want to sit and watch my gender depicted , as, well, the same way the people of my ethnicity are depicted. as dumb, evil, savages. I do not want to watch as I am dis-respected and malighned JUST because I am a man. Who in their right mind WOULD?!?
Women don't like watching negative portrayels of themselves on a constant basis, do they? Of course not. So why does Hollywierd (and the general media) think that we men are any
DIFFERENT, in that regard?
They are either STUPID or in DENIAL. Or maybe both.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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I never watch TV anymore. And I dumped my cable almost two years ago. I depend on news from the Internet. I get movies in the mail now via Walmart CD rental.
I have not missed cable or commercial TV. And I certainly haven't missed viewing men getting groin kicks, slaps and other humiliations.
I believe this may be a general trend and if the TV execs have any brains at all then they should heed this warning. They are losing $$$ big time!
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by Anonymous User on 01:29 PM July 31st, 2004 EST (#13)
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Luek.
You are exactly right.
Because in the end it is "$$$" that does the talking.
So, eventually, if things in the media remain un-changed they will at long last be FORCED to listen to us guys. we that ever elusive audience.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!!"
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TiVo tracks viewing habits and reports them back to TiVO the company, which sells that information to advertisers who wish to polish their message.
The information collected is anonymous to the postal zip code level (TiVo has a well written and scrupulous privacy agreement.), so you don't have to worry about the thought police coming after you.
It's the next best thing to being a Nielson family.
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by Anonymous User on 03:46 PM July 30th, 2004 EST (#9)
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Oh No! What will sitcom writers do without the bumbling, incompetent father? Whom will the wife or mother direct her thinly-veiled contempt against? Will we have girls who actually look up to and respect their fathers? Will we see fathers who can handle housework without injuring themselves? What fodder for amusement will there be without the dad who either can't open a ketchup bottle without injuring himself, or the alternative: the dad who sits on the couch, barely knowing his children's names (let alone their hobbies, school activities, etc), scratching his groin while he drools over Baywatch or the Playboy Channel.
As Mel Brooks said: "Quick, we've got to do something to protect our phoney baloney jobs!"
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I divorced TV that long ago because of misandrist content and I made no secret of why. TV is to the mind as smoking is to the lungs. "Women need men like fish need bicycles" (Attributed to Gremaine Greer...actually a rip off from John Donne "Man needs God like a fish needs a bicycle" but Germaine's Sociology prof wanted to get into her pants so he never took her to task for the plagerism) That being the case they aught to find a school of barracuda to finance their culture of mysandry and not count on us to be consumers of it. And frankly the TV industry would have to put many hickies on my butt to get my viewership back even if they did repent.
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(Attributed to Gremaine Greer...actually a rip off from John Donne "Man needs God like a fish needs a bicycle"
Were there bicycles in John Donne's day?
Where exactly can I find this quote?
John Donne 1572-1631
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I stand corrected, original source was Irena Dunn from an adaptation she made from a collection of vernacular philosophy expressed as grafitti (original author unknown but in no likelyhood feminist)
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This grafitto was made in a men's room so in most likelihood it was a man.
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I shot my TV with a 12 ga shotgun in 1974. As I remember, that was when the "all put downs, all the time" type of situation comedy was just taking off.
What I notice when I am in someone's house and the TV is on, is just how blatantly the obnoxious messages are dumped out. A couple of years ago I saw one of those ADHD commercials where the image changes twice per second that ended with a boy of about 10 wearing geek glasses and saying "I was born to be addicted to the web."
People who have the box on all the time seem to become numb to the agenda being clearly promoted and seem to filter it out of their awareness. I think it is like living near a RR track and eventually getting to the point where you just don't pay attention to the trains any more.
Apparently things have gotten so blatant that some guys can no longer ignore what they are being beaten with every day. It has taken so long to happen that I think there is is built-in delay of several years as attitudes get formed very slowly. I believe this means there is no way to recapture the male audience which TV has lost - the negative attitudes have created a change in behvavior on the part of thousands of men which likely won't change back even if producers did wise up and stop pumping out the crap. Once people's habits change and they start finding other ways to fill their time, I doubt that TV can win them back.
Good.
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