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T-shirts that mocked violence aganist women pulled
posted by Adam on 10:07 AM June 26th, 2004
News this is not equality writes "I'll bet (my opinion) most of these women and girls felt that the David and Goliath shirts were no big deal, but look at their successful actions and comments once the tables are turned! "Any violence against women is not a good thing to be advertising" or "It's not funny." article"

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Twisted priorities (Score:1)
by napnip on 04:01 PM June 26th, 2004 EST (#1)
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Just to demonstrate how twisted feminist priorities are, observe that the shirt in this story didn't actually promote violence against women, it simply made fun of it.

On the other hand, the David & Goliath shirts didn't just make fun of violence against males, they actively promote it by urging girls to "throw rocks at boys".

Major difference.

So on a morality scale, one could argue that the David & Goliath shirts are more immoral because they actively promote violence against males. Yet feminists claim that it's "no big deal". So why do they get their panties in a knot when a shirt doesn't actually promote violence against women, but simply makes fun of it?

"Existence exists. A is A." -Ayn Rand
Re:Twisted priorities (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 05:13 PM June 26th, 2004 EST (#2)

It is not mentioned as to whether these shirts were carried by other stores or whether this same store carried male-bashing clothing. If a store withdraws female-bashing clothing due to complaints but carries male-bashing clothing as though it is no big deal, it might be worth drawing attention to this. Basically, this indicates a double standard.

When efforts to get male-bashing clothing i.e. D&G removed are criticized, it might be worth mentioning what has happened with female-bashing clothing-which has in fact come under fire.


Promo for McEnroe on MSNBC (Score:2)
by TLE on 05:35 PM June 26th, 2004 EST (#3)
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"Any violence against women is not a good thing to be advertising," said Susan Mathews of Lincoln Park, who has a teenage daughter.

And so violence against men is a good thing to advertise? Apparently so.

Anyone see the latest promo for John McEnroe as a guest commentator for MSNBC? You guessed it. They show a guy gitting hit right in the groin by a tennis ball. Therefore it must be a really fun show!

I'm sure we can count on feminists to let that little bit of harmless violence go.
Also notice... (Score:2)
by Rand T. on 11:20 PM June 26th, 2004 EST (#4)
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that no opposing views are presented in the article--no one saying "it's only a joke, lighten up", no comments about a lack of sense of humour, etc., as is usually the case when men protest jokes of violence against them.
But, but but, ... that's "different" (Score:1)
by LSBeene on 01:14 AM June 27th, 2004 EST (#5)
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And these shirts were saying "do [such and such] TO me]"

While the D&G shirts were doing to OTHERS.

"but, but, but, that's different"

Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
Re:But, but but, ... that's "different" (Score:1)
by DeepThought on 10:09 AM June 27th, 2004 EST (#7)
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Exactly, there's a very large difference. These shirts basically insult the wearer, and are marketed towards women. If any woman is insulted by it, they wouldn't wear it, and as such wouldn't insult themselves. Men wouldn't wear it, as the whole joke depends on women wearers.

The D&G shirts imply violence to those OTHER than their target market. The women who wear the shirts aren't insulted themselves, they're insulting others.

If a men's version of the above shirts existed, it'd be very easy to get men to stop wearing them... just get noticed enough to send a clear message to the 4% of men that are wearing them and get them to NOT wear it. However, the D&G shirts are not worn by who they are insulting, which makes them much harder to stop.

That's just the market and it's perspecitve. The power of the words displayed is a whole 'nother story.
Re:But, but but, ... that's "different" (Score:1)
by MAUS on 05:03 PM June 28th, 2004 EST (#9)
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Here here!!! Excellent point indeed
Thank Ms Reed Of The Bergan County Rape Crisis Cnt (Score:2)
by Luek on 06:40 AM June 27th, 2004 EST (#6)
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According to the article the main instigators of the campaign to get the offending shirts pulled was the Bergen County Rape Crisis Center. We should contact them and THANK them for finally understanding how many men and boys felt about the David and Goliath misandrous shirts that advocated much stronger violence against young boys. Be sure to point out that many people thought that Glenn Sack's campaign to get the David and Goliath shirts removed was being silly and the too sensitive offended males just didn't appreciate the campy humor of the shirts. It was even said the shirts EMPOWERED GIRLS!

The Bergen County Rape Crisis Center and other women's groups were so offended that they began an e-mail campaign earlier this month urging people to call the chain's headquarters and demand the shirts be removed from the racks."It's about time," Rachel Reed, the rape crisis center's assistant director, told the newspaper. "I'm glad there were so many people as outraged as we were. This shirt is blatantly condoning violence against women."

Bergan County Rape Crisis Center contact info:

Office telephone (201) 488-7110 HOTLINE (201) 487-2227
TTY (201) 487-0916 Email: BCRCC@aol.com

But, but.......it's a MAN'S WORLD! Right? (Score:1)
by alphamale on 01:05 PM June 27th, 2004 EST (#8)
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Once again the double-standard that has been created in Western Society has reared its ugly head. Only in a truly matriarchical society would violence against men (or boys) be encouraged and violence against women be condemned. But hey, it's a man's world, right? I mean, that's what the female chauvinists and uneducated keep telling us. I hate to say it, but it is quite possible that the only way to turn back the tide of female chauvinism is thru a revolution, not unlike the one that made female chauvinism the dominant and socially acceptable ideology that it is today. Personally, while I don't condone any type of violence, except that directed at terrorists, I found the t-shirts quite funny. Much funnier that the "throw rocks at boys t-shirts." I'm waiting for the "you can beat me, you can abuse me, but don't touch the REMOTE CONTROL or I'll KILL YOU" t-shirts, or the "you can take all my money, you can take away my children, but take my BEER and I'll KILL YOU!" I have a hunch they will be a big seller with the female crowd!
Re:But, but.......it's a MAN'S WORLD! Right? (Score:1)
by MAUS on 05:06 PM June 28th, 2004 EST (#10)
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"you can take all my money, you can take away my children, but take my BEER and I'll KILL YOU!"

I LIKE IT!!!! Ray, how about cookin up a batch of those?
Re:But, but.......it's a MAN'S WORLD! Right? (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 01:32 PM July 2nd, 2004 EST (#11)
Where can I get this shirt?

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