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by Anonymous User on 01:30 PM March 23rd, 2004 EST (#1)
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I saw this comercial just last night.
It is interesting to note that these commercials and most of the media, in general keep teaching that the best way for a woman to "put her man in his place" is through the use of some form of violence and\or humiliation.
On a similar note;
Has anyone seen the newest "VERISON" phone commercial?
I keep comeing in at the end of this ad, so I don't know what leads up to it, but it ends with some guy (here we go again) buck NAKED and bound and gagged to a tree with duct tape.
Where the is the F.C.C. on this garbage?!?
As always, it has become redundant, at best, to say, that this would NEVER be done to a female! Not EVER!
Has anyone seen the FULL ad? if so, I'd like to know what VERISON's "excuse" for this misandry is...!
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 03:24 PM March 23rd, 2004 EST (#2)
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Debenhams have an ad running at present on UK tv. Shows a woman going to Debenhams sale. A man is in her way, so she flings him judo style some 10 feet away. Now, suppose the ad showed a man throwing a woman around..........
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by Anonymous User on 03:38 PM March 23rd, 2004 EST (#3)
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An ad showing a MAN throwing a woman around?
NEVR HAPPEN!
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Thundecloud,
Nice to see you online. We need to give these advertising jerks a big "Hoka hey" in their arrogant faces.
Steve
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I have recently seen a commercial for Rona Hardware stores, aimed solely at women to tell them "You dont need a man to fix things." There is such a frequent amount of messages towards women in the "You dont need a man" ideal, but I have never seen anything aimed at men advising them that they dont *need* women.
The commercial ends with the woman pulling aside the bathtub curtain and her husband is relaxing in the bath with a mudpack on his face and the voice over says, "Now if there was only some way to fix him." Or something like that.
It seems that for every pro-male commercial I see, there is at least two commercials that either put down males or promotes females. Misandric or gynocentric.
R
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by Anonymous User on 07:24 PM March 23rd, 2004 EST (#5)
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And another ad for Sprint shows an out-of-touch father who cannot even remember his teenage children's names. He gets their school interests wrong too. Why? Because he has the wrong long distance plan. The understanding and patient mother is there with the Sprint sales guy and solves the problem with the father by switching to Sprint.
This BS is everywhere.
TLE
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Strawbridge's near Philadelphia uses the exact same ad. Let's organize and then we can institute an organized attack.
bg
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I checked Foley's website and both Foley's, Strawbridge and many others are divisions of the May Company(www.mayco.com). I'm sending the May Company a letter letting them know that in the last year I spent about 75% of my clothing dollars on them (through Robinsons-May) and that in the following year it will probably be zero. I look at it as attacking the octopus instead of one of the tentacles.
Perhaps a good boycott strategy would be to pick the worst or most vulnerable of an industry and exclusively boycott them for a set period of time. If we can cause a company to miss an earnings target or two, perhaps we can make their stock price drop. In short: If we can give one of the schoolyard bullies a bloody nose, the others may be less willing to push us around.
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Perhaps a good boycott strategy would be to pick the worst or most vulnerable of an industry and exclusively boycott them for a set period of time.
This is absolutely the best strategy. It's been about a year now since I've seen that sexist Phillip Morris DV Ad, but I still boycott them 100% and encourage everyone I know to do the same.
Of course it's easier since I don't smoke or drink beer, but finding replacements for some of their Kraft stuff is a little tough!
David S.
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To send an email to Foley's, go to:
http://www2.shopmay.com/gifts/OnlineShopping/FO?Ds p=70&R=778
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We will pass this on to the appropriate executives.
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by Anonymous User on 11:41 AM March 24th, 2004 EST (#12)
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>"We will pass this on to the appropriate executives."
Sure they will.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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"Today I saw a Foley's ad on some of the plasma TV's hanging in the middle of the FlatIron Crossing Mall (Broomfield, CO). This showed
a male mannequin admiring a woman who was trying on clothes in the store. A female mannequin next to him then hit him over the head with her purse. Afterwards, he looked humbled while she had a smug smile on her face.
This ad is demeaning to men, and not particularly flattering to
women either. I'm so sick of companys marketing male-basing (misandry). I'm also disappointed as I thought Foley's was a high class store.
Please discontinue this offensive ad immediately."
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by Anonymous User on 11:02 AM March 24th, 2004 EST (#11)
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Is there a web site that lists these ads? (I've noted many of them in my palm pilot). It would be nice if there were, each of us gets to see some, but a collection would help to show how pervasive it really is.
It's bad enough how much misandry there is, but to have it all silently sanctified by the networks and all the supposedly gender-neutral watchdogs is simply repugnant.
duane6m.AT.yahoo.ca
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The ironic thing is that there is a chicken nugget commercial which shows the guy and girl sitting in a diner, he is talking and she is eating and thinking about the nuggets, ignoring him. Another man walks in and she eyes him while thinking something like the old is good until something better comes along. Her date asks about colors and she gives an answer which is inappropriate because she is too busy looking at the other guy.
Now first of all, we women talk like that, not guys, and second of all, why is it ok for women to ogle men when with their date but not men look at women? Extreme double standard.
I see a lot of comercials where they switch the traits of the sexes then make it OK for the women. The man in the tub with a mud mask is the pefect example-that is a FEMALE thing, I have yet to meet a man who would take a bath with a mud mask. AND it is empowering when women do it, but obviously bad when the guy does it. This is why we are not getting cable at our new house.
The Biscuit Queen
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by Anonymous User on 04:15 PM March 24th, 2004 EST (#15)
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Jen.
Yes, I've seen that commercial.
And yes the media tends to feminize men while masculinizing women. (masculinizing, is that even a word??)
In the eyes of the feminist controled media reverseing the gender traits IS equality.
The more a woman is like a man the more equal (or better) she is. conversely, in their warpped minds the only "logical" way to make the man "infirior" is to feminize him.
Feminists in general see it that way, too.
When they say they want "equality" they are actually saying that they want a complete trasfer of gender to take place. In essence they want to be the "man" and men to be the "woman". And they will never stop untill that goal is achieved. This is the main reason we see this efeminate or feminized male type emerging steadily and more freaquently in our media. It IS by design. These are also the "model man" that they want men to immulate. And if not that they want to have the image of the feminized male repeated so often that men will subconciously begin to take on such traits untill it is firmly ensconced into the male phsyce.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 04:17 PM March 24th, 2004 EST (#16)
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I meant the "male PSYCHE" not "male PHSYCE".
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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And they will never stop until that goal is achieved. This is the main reason we see this effeminate or feminized male type emerging steadily and more frequently in our media. It IS by design. These are also the "model man" that they want men to emulate. And if not that they want to have the image of the feminized male repeated so often that men will subconciously begin to take on such traits until it is firmly ensconced into the male psyche.
I meet so many either wholly, or at least partially feminized men these days. It makes me see how much today's men are victims of a massive psy-op. And it's really dismaying and discouraging to see how they unthinkingly parrot feminist dogma back at you like an automaton and get upset and angry when any of it is challenged. It's almost like a bad science fiction movie, except this is real life.
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Yeah.. speaking of irony, I just saw the Chicken Nugget and Sprint commercials in a WB "Misandry Marathon". Nice. One commercial I know I also "like" isn't exactly bashing of men, but... very... empowering.
Some brand of Tampon. I honestly don't remember the brand. Not exactly a highest priority. But anyway, it shows everyday women in 7-second clips of doing things like changing from high-heeled shoes into slippers ("aaah..."), plucking eyebrows ("ouch!"), and things like that, while a voiceover (female, of course), says "we have to deal with a lot of painful things in our everyday [...whatever... it ends up being] ...using a tampon shouldn't be one of them". Now, isn't wearing high heels sort of an avoidable hazard in the "daily life"?
I also like the Secret slogan "strong enough for a man, [blank... soft? gentle?] enough for a woman" being changed to "strong enough for a woman". If it were any other product, it'd be fine... but a deoderant? It's all very empowering, but it implies that women smell REALLY bad. I mean, if it were a man, that'd be bad enough, but HELL, that woman REEKS! Quick! Get deoderant strong enough for a woman!
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by Anonymous User on 10:39 PM March 24th, 2004 EST (#21)
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I don't get out much, like I used to, but yeah, now that you mention it, Thomas I HAVE noticed more women in high heels.
(I'm in Indiana, B.T.W.)
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Um, that is cause it is spring....nothing is worse on ice than high heels, not that I have a lot of experience, but enough.
The Biscuit Queen
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Well, I can't help you then. I have no clue about current fashion trends. I wear jeans with holes in them and my only consession to seasons is long sleeved t-shirts and mocs vs short sleeve t-shirts and sandles.
I have way better things to spend my time and money on, like my dogs;-)
the Biscuit Queen
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by Anonymous User on 12:50 PM March 25th, 2004 EST (#27)
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Yeah, spring time might explain it.
...Now I have to go take my anti-stupid pill.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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"AND it is empowering when women do it, but obviously bad when the guy does it."
Right. I have frequently tried to use this logic on people and just get blank stares returned: Take a situation in which a man is doing something society considered "wrong" or take a situation in which a woman is doing something that society is okay with, but if a man did the action it would be considered "wrong". Then, just point how how, if you kept the situation exactly the same, but merely reversed the genders, it would be a completely different scenario. How is that equality?
Th usual response is either they ignore me, agree but then forget the lesson or accuse me of hating women :P I have noticed that society, in general, seems to react this way: Men can do masculine things only, while women can do feminine or masculine things.
This attitude even applies to things like sexual crimes. Acts which a man has to constantly watch out for in fear of being accused of sexual harrassment, women are allowed to do all the time to either man or woman, without any fear of repercussion.
"And yes the media tends to feminize men while masculinizing women. (masculinizing, is that even a word??) In the eyes of the feminist controled media reverseing the gender traits IS equality. "
Hmmm, I've havent really noticed this myself. From what I have observed, "mainstream" media only uses femininity with men as a means to mock, humiliate or ridicule men. Like commercials with the man in the mud mask, men wearing "frilly" underwear, men drinking "girly" drinks or men doing traditional "feminine" acitivities. I have never seen a plot or commercial that tried to market these things as granted freedom to men, only to mock and ridicule them.
R
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I watch almost no TV these days unless it is news, Discovery Science, The Learning Channel, History Channel, or something educational. TV is Bull Shit. It is anti-Male, Pro Homosexual, and anti-family. I don't spend my money on Misandric BS. My wife is too stupid to realize she is being brain washed. She watches Lifetime Entertainment for Women, & Oxygen. The media culture is brain washing women, into buying crap they don't need. I refuse to buy in. I keep my opinions to myself it is useless to try to get her to see the reality of the situation.
Women are for the most part self absorbed Children. They are emotionally retarded. The Women's Movement has succeeded in destroying the relationship between the Genders. I intend to dump my wife and seek a Woman from outside this Misandric culture.
KhanKrumtheBulgar
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I E-mailed Glenn about getting a new Campaign started:
I hope I can ask the other members here for support on this: I told him we should pick a major company that uses violence against men as a sight gag to sell their product.
So, what I am asking is for any motivated members here to help me find this company. And in fact if anyone can help with the criteria of the company we want to target.
Here is what I am thinking: A Large powerful company with a wide and varied product line that uses at least 2, and preferably more, commercials that use violence against men as an advertising tool. If it uses this "humor" in more than one product and commercial all the better.
Further, even if we "lose" and they don't pull the product (worst case scenario) we win. We get print for our efforts, awareness of our cause, get awareness from politicians, Glenn's show gets more name recognition and with that more people knowing what we are doing, and more men and women will know about our issues.
If we win, it's all gravy.
I would really appreciate any help or feed back on this issue. I plan to submit this same suggestion to SYG, Angry Harry, and the Men's Hour people.
As I said, I already E-mailed Glenn and am hoping to hear back from him.
Thanks,
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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by Anonymous User on 05:21 PM March 26th, 2004 EST (#30)
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I completely agree that television commercials using violence or the ridicule of men as a gag should be the next big focus. Glenn has the voice and organization to drive this.
Let's not declare victory and go to sleep just because we won the D&G confrontation.
There are tons of ads that use torture and ridicule of men. Let's get started.
Steven, you've hit the nail on the head!
TLE
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I received a message on my answering machine today as follows:
“Hi Steven, my name is Marsha Byer, I’m the store manager of the Foley’s store in Broomfield and I received a copy of your letter regarding the plasma screen spots and I’m certainly very sorry that you were offended by it. I have talked to our corporate offices, obviously, the advertising is done through our corporation … and I have forwarded your letter on to them.
Thanks very much, and again we appreciate your feedback very much, and we hope to keep you as a customer. Thanks, bye.”
Well, at least this is progress. J. C. Penney never even responded to my complaints.
Steve
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by Anonymous User on 11:56 PM March 26th, 2004 EST (#32)
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Steve.
That is encourageing.
Most companies just send you the typical generic response letter.
Maybe Foleys CAN be reasoned with.
Too bad so many other companies can't be. (David and Goliath spring to mind.)
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 12:58 PM April 3rd, 2004 EST (#33)
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Have you seen the new Dairy Queen commercial in which a father's infant baby strapped to his chest kicks him in the genitals and then head-butts him in order to try whatever new treat they are selling. The catch phrase is, "It's worth fighting for..." I'm sick and tired of seeing men being hit, punched, kicked, and bitten in the crotch as a gag on commercials. There is nothing funny about this sexual attack.
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Yes. It's now one of the most shown commercials.
You forgot the... ah, KICKER, though... in certian versions, after being in extrordinary pain, kneeling, his ice cream treat in his hand, he looks up at a woman sitting at a table, where he says something to the female in some sort of pathetic greeting/opening line, thus showing the male humiliated and humbled in the eyes of the female. Nice, isn't it.
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