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A man friendly book
posted by Adam on 05:30 PM March 20th, 2004
Web Links Am I to believe Rachel Snyder's book on amazon called "What There Is to Love About a Man" has only two reviews? Outrageous! you know what to do.

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Aren't We A Little Late? (Score:2)
by Dittohd on 07:15 PM March 20th, 2004 EST (#1)
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This book is about 4 1/2 years old! In fact, Amazon.com at your link doesn't even stock it anymore. It's being sold only in their after-market section.

Too bad we didn't find this book 4 1/2 years ago. I just may pick up a used copy. I'd like to read it.

Dittohd

Re:Aren't We A Little Late? (Score:1)
by Adam H (adam@mensactivism.org) on 10:29 PM March 20th, 2004 EST (#3)
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We know what to do?

Use something called initiative.

This book is about 4 1/2 years old! In fact, Amazon.com at your link doesn't even stock it anymore.

It was linked there since they had a preview of the book. Besides, ever heard of a search engine? there's that initiative thing again.

*eyes rolling skyward*


Re:Initiative (Score:2)
by Dittohd on 07:54 PM March 22nd, 2004 EST (#10)
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I'm still not sure what kind of initiative you were hoping for (phony reviews on the Amazon.com book page, maybe?) but I just got a confirmation of my order for a used copy of the book. I'll add my review after I've read it.

If anyone else wishes to buy the book, I found only one source that has it new in stock and that's Barnes and Noble The price is $10.95 plus S&H.

For used (including "like new") copies, I found two sources, Alibris and Half.com Anybody here who knows what Adam meant as far as what to do feel that what that is will help our cause any??

Dittohd

Re:Initiative (Score:1)
by Adam H (adam@mensactivism.org) on 08:20 PM March 22nd, 2004 EST (#11)
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Anybody here who knows what Adam meant as far as what to do feel that what that is will help our cause any??

I'm kind of hoping that the more books like this that are bought, the more publishers make them and all the more retailers buy them. Hopefully.
Aren't We A Little Late? - P.S. (Score:2)
by Dittohd on 07:24 PM March 20th, 2004 EST (#2)
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We know what to do? Buying used copies isn't going to help the author any. And if it's out of print, not many people are going to buy used copies of it or search out copies in used book stores no matter how many good reviews we post.

Looks like we missed the ball on this one.

Dittohd

Write another book (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 08:42 PM March 21st, 2004 EST (#4)
What There Is to Love about a Man is a tribute to men, honoring masculine attributes that have become casualties on the battlefield of gender politics and relationship wars.

This book has been out of print for a while. I wonder what masucline attributes will be praised in another 5 years, considering the onslaught of the radical feminist juggernaut targeting all things male as evil?

Today, male chivalry is on life support and femi-supremacist law is targeting all things heterosexual for extinction. Perhaps this authoress could write another book soon. Just call it, "What is there to love about not be able to love men?"

Ray
Re: Loving Men (Score:2)
by Dittohd on 01:21 AM March 22nd, 2004 EST (#5)
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I keep hearing about women in their 30's and 40's complaining about having trouble finding men to marry. I wonder if men are having anywhere near the same problem.

I wonder if men today are more attractive to women the way they are now or less attractive because of all the "forced" changes in the way men can act and carry themselves.

I also wonder what percentage of women marry more for the almost immediate "pension" benefits inherent in marriage today more than anything else as compared to 20 or 30 years ago, considering the way judges today decide divorce alimony and "child" support these days.

Dittohd

Re: Loving Men (Score:1)
by VinceJS on 12:01 PM March 22nd, 2004 EST (#7)
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I keep hearing about women in their 30's and 40's complaining about having trouble finding men to marry. I wonder if men are having anywhere near the same problem.

Of course they are; the problem lies in finding truly marriageable women. Strike one: she's already been through several different sexual "relationships" and traumatic "breakups" and now we're supposed to believe how important sexual fidelity is. Strike two: she's an "independent", "career" woman who will not put her husband first in her life, in fact she will be willing to make very few personal sacrifices for the sake of the marriage (perhaps not even take her husband's name). Strike three: she demands the right to unilaterally end the marriage whenever she fails to find "personal fulfillment", of course keeping the house, kids, and a good chunk of hubby's income. YERRRR OUT!!!!!

I wonder if men today are more attractive to women the way they are now or less attractive because of all the "forced" changes in the way men can act and carry themselves.

Men like this are less attractive to women, no matter what they say. Women have a hard-wired need for men to be "real men" and not wussie-poopies. We men absolutely must stop letting women define what masculinity and manhood are all about.

I also wonder what percentage of women marry more for the almost immediate "pension" benefits inherent in marriage today more than anything else as compared to 20 or 30 years ago, considering the way judges today decide divorce alimony and "child" support these days.

It's not that women are that calculating; most do in fact marry with the idea of life-long love. However many of them are too narcissistic to realize that they will get out of the marriage what they put into it, and eagerly bail when the going gets rough, aided and abetted by our female-centered family law system.


Re:Write another book (Score:1)
by Gregory on 10:11 AM March 22nd, 2004 EST (#6)
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"Today, male chivalry is on life support..."--Ray

I'm not so sure. As a matter of fact, I think that may be part of the problem -- male politicians and gov't bureaucrats pandering to feminist pressure groups. Male politicians (like Sen Joe Byden) and male bureaucrats (like AG Ashcroft) work hard to pass legislation like VAWA and go after "deadbeats". The presidents from either party get up on their soap boxes and rant against abusive men, deadbeat fathers, discriminatory employers who pay women less than men for the same work, and a healthcare establishment that ignores the needs of women. Bureaucrats in the HHS push for women's health research and education programs, ignoring or dowplaying the serious health problems of males. And that's just on the federal level. If anything, I'd say there's a surplus of male chivalry -- in gov't, the media, and other areas.
Re:Write another book (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 01:00 PM March 22nd, 2004 EST (#8)
The whole "Chivalry" thing is a republican vice. Which is why I'm not a republican.
The "hate all men" thing and "get even with all men" thing is a democrat vice. which is why I'm not a democrat.
As men we get screwed either way.

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:Not Republican, Not Democrat (Score:2)
by Dittohd on 07:42 PM March 22nd, 2004 EST (#9)
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So what are you? An indecisive, middle of the road Independent? Libertarian? Green Partier? Other?

Dittohd

Re:Not Republican, Not Democrat (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 01:35 PM March 23rd, 2004 EST (#15)
I'm an independant.

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  "Hoka hey!"
Not a Democrat vice? (Score:1)
by Acksiom on 02:21 AM March 23rd, 2004 EST (#14)
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That hardly matches my observations, TC.

I find that the stereotyping and blaming of men, among Democrats, just gets *added on top* of their same basic expectation of 'chivalry' from men.

Frankly, I don't think it's a 'party' thing at all. It's a technology thing, and as long as technological development where the easing of men's traditional responsibilities is concerned (mainly, sacrifice of their safety, health, and lives, for everyone else's safety, health, lives, and higher standard of living) lags behind that where women's traditional responsibilities are concerned, pretty much any political orientation is going to expect 'chivalry' from men.

Ack!
Non Illegitimi Carborundum, and KOT!
Re:Write another book (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 08:36 PM March 22nd, 2004 EST (#12)
I'd say there's a surplus of male chivalry -- in gov't, the media, and other areas.

Gregory:

You present a well reasoned and objective arguement. I was too subjective. In my mind chivalry is dead, but overall society is as you say.

Ray
Re:Chivalry (Score:2)
by Dittohd on 01:07 AM March 23rd, 2004 EST (#13)
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>I'd say there's a surplus of male chivalry -- in gov't, the media, and other areas.

I third that motion. Women could not have gotten all the outrageous changes accomplished without the cooperation of a bunch of men (if they can be rightly called that).

Dittohd

Re:Chivalry (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 01:43 PM March 23rd, 2004 EST (#16)
Yes, That's a good point.
But no, I don't call male co-conspirators of feminism "men". I always refer to them as "Wussie poopies". And there's alot of 'em out there.
They're in our government, our universities, our schools, and God knows they're rife in the media.

"I see wussie poopies.
They're every where. They don't even know they're wussy poopies..."

(paraphraseing the movie "The 6th sense")

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
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