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posted by Thomas on 12:16 PM February 16th, 2004
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frank h writes "Okay, this probably isn't really BIG news, but it is unusual: A woman elected to state office being accused of sexual harassment, by some of her aides. I've always wondered why it is that this and related indiscretions by men are big news, while women who stray across the line are given a pass. Have any of you wondered when a woman elected to office was going to have an affair exposed by the media? (Don't believe for a minute they don't happen!)"
It's certainly possible for someone to be oversensitive about what they perceive as sexual harassment. Nevertheless, I'm sure harassment can be severe enough create a horrible, untenable situation for the target. This article highlights the fact that we need to bear a few things in mind. Men are often considered far more likely than women to cheat in relationships, despite the fact that every survey and study I've seen for the last few years (sorry, I don't have links handy) has indicated that women are at least as likely to cheat. Men are generally considered far more likely than women to commit domestic violence, despite the fact that studies consistently show that women commit at least as much DV against men as men do against women, women initiate the domestic violence more often than men do, and women commit most DV against children.
I wouldn't doubt that, if the truth ever comes out about sexual harassment in and out of the workplace, we'll find that women commit at least as much as men.
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We need to open the definition up, as well. Right now, the definition of sexual harassment focuses exclusively on the ways that women perceive harassment. Let me ask you gentlemen: have you ever been at your workplace and found yourself distracted by the dress or provocative manner of a female colleague? I have. And while they might be attractive, I have found some of those instances to be annoying, especially when I was working against a deadline. I believe there are some brain-biology mechanisms at work here: that men are hunters and their vision (not just their eyesight) is attuned to motion and possible targets, targets for food and for mating. These things are instinctive and therefore diffcult to suppress. So when an attractive woman walks past your office, you're compelled to look long enough to consciously process what you see. So a scantily clad woman will draw some of your attention whether you want her to or not, no matter how hard to work to keep your thoughts clear of "lust and want."
I regard this to be sexual harassment, while the laws of the nation and the individual states allow women to dress anyway they damn well please. Don't get me wrong, I don't favor the wearing of the veil and chador, but I DO favor the recognition of the fact that men perceive sexual harassment differently than women, and that this harassment is not currently recognized by law.
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Women do not care about men's feelings as much as men care about women's feelings. I mean let's face it everyone. It takes alot more energy and attention to raise a girl than it does a boy. It takes alot more attention and money for a man to have a girlfriend or a wife than it does for a woman to have a male companion. We as men feel guilty when we don't make women happy. In a way women are like men's children. It saddens me but I think the ideas like the ones on this site will never make it in the main stream. Women are weaker than men and let's face it women are the one's with the huge egos. It makes me sad.
Look at history. The only time women were not catered to hand and foot was when men were trying to focus on the greater good of civilization and knew that we were helping out women more by building the world up. We couldn't constantly cater to them while we were trying to make laws and systems to keep people safe. Yet after we brought society to a new and greater level we went right back to catering to them again.
The thing is things like this will always go on. Women want and need special treatment that is just the way they are. I don't know how to fight it and I cannot make women into what I want them to be.
Sure I was sexually harassed at work by women before one way or another. What could I do? Make a big deal out of it and make myself into a joke?
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by Anonymous User on 07:36 PM February 17th, 2004 EST (#8)
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You should complain. Too long men have been silenced. That's not a joke. That's why men are now treated like disposable sub-humans.
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by Anonymous User on 03:48 PM February 16th, 2004 EST (#2)
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Woof! What a dog.
What sane man with an ounce of self respect would want to see Kohn and her saggy 50-year-old tits?
Women like Kohn have to eradicate this fantasy, which is that everyone in the world should have to feel greatful for seeing them naked.
Some of us do have standards.
I wouldn't want to see Rebecca Cohn's breasts or hear about her sex life any more than a 16 year-old girl should want to see Archie Bunker's fat naked ass!
Report her to the authorities and get it over with!
If she wants to find a more suitable place for her to work, she should try the barn. The article doesn't say. Who knows? Maybe that's where she works her evening shift and hence why her assistant felt the need to puke.
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by Anonymous User on 06:10 PM February 16th, 2004 EST (#3)
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Actually, the article names a couple of female assistants who did the complaining.
I see this as a typical female way to handle trivial matters that they find offensive. Instead of saying "whoa, way too much information," they run and file a complaint. So there.
It is entertaining though, this woman getting a taste of feminist BS.
TLE
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I find it ironic, what are they going to do now? Side with the empowered woman who is confident in her sexuality, or the poor helpless women who need to be sheltered?! Can't do both now, can they!
MUHAHAHA!
This cracks me up!
The Biscuit Queen
Dave K - A Radical Moderate
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...so what of the other complainant? A man? If so, what was his beef?
Gotta love this... a woman complaining about a woman. I love it. The females PC-ites, having walloped men, are now turning on each other. Sad. But, some poetic justice.
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I checked out her legislative record. She opposed AB 2240, the paternity fraud relief act. Too bad we can't recall her like we did with Gray Davis.
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