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by Anonymous User on 04:04 PM February 13th, 2004 EST (#1)
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An exellent and very TELLING article.
Something that I find interesting is the number of people who claim that this protest against the "Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them" T-shirts is a violation of this company's first amendment rights.
I find it interesting because, back in my college days (in the mid 80's) when we were protesting the 'Detective magazines' and their covers depicting women in bondage and rape scenerios, not ONCE did I hear ANYONE tell us that we were violating the 1st amendment rights of those magazine companies. Not ONCE!
Funny, ain't it, that it is only an assault on free speech when we protest the ill-treatment of males.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
'The truth hurts..., ask any feminist.'
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>Moreover, Dillards victory seems to have come unexpectedly.
You perceive this victory as enexpected? How so, considering the string of victories we've enjoyed so far?
What I found unexpected and a really encouraging surprise was our victory with the company Delia's which agreed to pull their offensive D&G products right after being contacted by Glenn Sacks' producer to get information from them for the upcoming campaign against them. They immediately saw the writing on the wall and took immediate action to avoid the negative publicity.
A lot different from Claire's which stalled and held on as long as they could before the heat started mounting and even Dr. Laura got into the frey.
I think this just goes to show that the squeeky wheel really does get the grease and as Warren Farrell's book title state's, "Women Can't Hear What Men Don't Say."
If we, as men, keep sucking it up and taking all the abuse "like a man," we have nobody to blame but ourselves. It won't be easy, but it's definitely doable.
Dittohd
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by Anonymous User on 12:35 PM February 15th, 2004 EST (#3)
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"but it's definitely doable". In 2003, if a company got word that the mens movement objected to a product, they just laughed. Our recent efforts have shown that we DO have teeth. The day will come when company executives wii go pale around the gills if they hear that the mens movement is unhappy about their product, services,advertising, employment policies etc. They are presently terrified of the womens movement. They are slowly beginning to respect the mens movement. The key to success is total focus on a carefully selected isolated target, and then to persist with pit bull determination until victory is achieved. Every victory enhances our credibility and paves the way for future victories.
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Well said! I agree completely.
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by Anonymous User on 03:25 PM February 15th, 2004 EST (#4)
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...victory seems to have come unexpectedly."
Color me presumptuous, but I was expecting victory. Business is not government. It cares about its image. It cares about how it treats people, therefore it cannot just arbitrarily tax and exploit people. Businesses must earn their money, and that means being nice to all potential customers. If people start to picket their stores with signs such as "XXXXX" ADVOCATES CHILD ABUSE AGAINST BOYS! It could have a really negative impact on their sales and their business viability.
I'm still trying to figure out how one could picket D&G's web site. Are internet stores beyond the reach of public protest? Are internet businesses by their nature untouchable? How legally can negative public protest be brought to stores operating without a physical storefront in the brave new territories of cyberspace?
Sincerely, Ray
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by Anonymous User on 10:34 PM February 15th, 2004 EST (#7)
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Attacks on their web site may be a good idea. However, I think the best idea is to await Glenn's directive and then follow it, rather than for individuals to launch their own campaigns. Experience has shown that only a co-ordinated approach yields results.
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You know there is always the possibility of extending the protest to the consumer as well. Anti fur activists throw blood on people wearing fur....use your immagination.
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"I'm still trying to figure out how one could picket D&G's web site.
I'm not real good with Web design, but it occurs to me that we might be able to attach a pop-up ad to their Web site.
Just a thought...
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