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by Anonymous User on Tuesday November 18, @06:45PM EST (#1)
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Accountability seems to a be a virtue that many women lack. Modern “victimhood culture” indoctrinates the idea for females that if something went wrong – there has to be a man at blame for it.
Just go to any Family Probate Court and make a judgement for yourself...
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Her father ought to be at least a little bit proud that he raised a stand-up girl who's willing to take responsibility for her own indescretions. One should still ask why the hell the girl was out with these guys in the first place, but in the longer term, she did the right thing and that ought to be recognized.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday November 19, @06:47AM EST (#3)
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I find the title of this posting to be very patronizing to women. It implies that mensactivism believes so few girls take responsibility for their actions that this article is newsworthy.
The double standard that I THINK you are trying to explain (but don't get around to explicitly saying) is that when a boy does something stupid like this, he usually doesn't get away with blaming others for it. Girls, on the other hand, are seen as in need of more protection and can generally get away with blaming others (like the tatoo artist) for stupid mistakes they themselves made.
Am I right? If I am, could someone please update this posting to reflect that? I don't think this is an unreasonable request.
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No, you are not right. I don't think it is patronizing at all. It tells what the story is about. Period. It doesn't say 'finally' or 'for once' 'OMG I can't believe'. It just say that this person took responsibility. This sight is not PC, we do not have to bow down because you are offended at innocuous language.
And you know what? Teenage girls rarely DO take responsibility, so even if it did say one of the above it would be accurate.
Who the heck are you anyways? Get a username. Your request is denied by virtue of anonimity.
~The Biscuit Queen
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I don't think my post explained the whole problem with PC, so here is my take on it.
My problem with feminism/PC.
The outside purpose of Political Correctness is to avoid offending special interest groups.
My basis on this is that there are special names for every race out there except European races, which are all lumped into the category 'white.' Also, there are constant references to "women and minorities", which *gasp* leave white men with no voice.
The real purpose of political correctness is control.
Let us take your example of the headline "Teenage Girl Takes Responsibility for Her Actions" You feel this is offensive because you think it implies that most teenage girls are not responsible and that is the only reason it is newsworthy.
You wrote: "Am I right? If I am, could someone please update this posting to reflect that? I don't think this is an unreasonable request"
Let us look at this another way. This is a free site, meaning anyone can come here if they choose. Flip side, anyone can leave here if they choose. People who post here have made this their space, we post articles we are interested in and feel inform us. We also allow other people to come in and post comments even if they are strangers and we disagree with them.
You come here of your own free will, do not make yourself known by posting anonymously, and you want US to change the way we post because YOU have a problem. Who has the problem? YOU. But who is supposed to accommodate you? US. You want to control the way we post.
Let me repeat that.
You want to control the way we post.
Is your request unreasonable? Let me give you another example. Someone comes to your door and says to you "Your mail box says Mr. and Mrs. Joe Schmoe. I feel this implies that women are inferior to men. Don't you agree? If so, would you please update your mailbox to reflect that men are not superior?
Hello? I would say mind your own damn business. It is my mailbox on my property. If you don’t like it go away. This is no different. You have no right to assume that just because you feel one way that we have to agree with you, or that we would even consider changing what we wrote because you are offended.
The idea that if one is offended other people must change is ludicrious. This is a direct result of women feeling they should be protected as they would be at home out in the workforce. When women were at home, they controlled what went on in that home. Offensive material was not allowed in the home unless the women allowed it. A housewife would not allow a picture of a naked woman (non-artistic) in her home, most would not allow cigar smoke, or crude language or off-color jokes. Men would share these things in the workplace. If another man was offended, he had choices. Talk to the offender and see if a compromise could be made, live with it, or find another job. Most chose to live with it. This worked for men for hundreds of years. Men are amazingly accommodating creatures. When women came into the workforce, they expected the men to be under their control, just like in the home. So they started out with small things, like nude photo calendars, or offensive humor. And now they control everything, thanks to the current PC government. This is wrong. People should not have to play to the least common denominator. It stifles creativity, it causes tension in relationships in the workplace, and it gives absolute power to one group of people: women.
How about you go find a place which speaks in phrases which are not offensive to you. Find people who agree with you. That is the beauty of the internet. We could write “women are all scum sucking leaches who pop out brats to enslave men” or we could write “the sky is purple” and you still have no right to assume that anyone would change a word because you don’t like it. As my mother used to say,” if you don’t like it, don’t look at it.”
My 2 cents, the Biscuit Queen
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"I find the title of this posting to be very patronizing to women"
The title is very benign. I don't find it patronizing at all.
"It implies that mensactivism believes so few girls take responsibility for their actions that this article is newsworthy"
Postings here are from individuals and not necessarily the opinions of the site or administrators.
Since you mentioned it, yes a typical teenage girl taking responsibility for her own actions is rare and newsworthy. So rare, that it is almost nonexistant. I said ALMOST. Anyone who thinks that teen girls owning up to their own mistakes is the norm is seriously delusional. Also, the "I was drunk" excuse doesn't fly with me either.
In all honesty, I'm willing to cut this girl some slack here. I have made many mistakes in my life, and no one has been there to share the consequences with me. Just me. She sounds like she accepts the consequences(having stupid markings permanently branded on her body). I actually feel genuine sympathy for her and I am not of the attitude of "Good for her she deserves it." However, my sypathy for her is because she made a big mistake, not that she was victimized. 15 year olds are capable of making important decisions. She is not a baby.
By the way, please get a username or at least sign the end of your posts so that we will know what to call you... especially if more than one "anonymous" jumps in...
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It's not unreasonable, but it won't be granted. I couldn't do it if I wanted to. I posted it and believe that it was aptly worded and if you have a better title, this is what you do.
Get a piece of masking tape and a marker. Write the title on it. You're going to need this later.
Fire up your browser. Find the offending post.
Using the tape with the title on it, place over title of said post. Keep in mind that you will have to apply, remove, and re-apply as you scroll about the page.
Voila!
Pardon me. I'm a bit PUNCHY. :)
With empowerment comes responsibility.
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You know, this crap is exactly why I tend to be as obnoxious as possible as I can to these twits.
Look, little girl. Long ago and far away, men had a place they could go to. They could cuss, and belch, and tell off color stories, and all kinds of things. Slowly it has been taken away from us, and all of it at the hands of women, first who had their widdle feelings hurt that they couldn't come in, and next they had ums widdle feelings hurt by the overt masculinity.
This is the last place - in the whole god-damned world - I can come to, slap down the latest nonsense from the N.O.W. and say, "Would you get a load of what these dumb cunts have done this time?"
I will be dipped in SHIT before I will accept any changes in this well needed place for men to vent, rant, rave, and blow off steam so they can cool out and get to the business of making some change.
You know something, chickie, it's why we call pheminists phemiNAZIs. How many bajillion boards are there on the fuckin' internet, honey child? How many of them have the "hurt widdle feelings" clauses on there?
Then WHY THE FUCK do you pick one titled - in Great Big Quivering Capital Letters, fer Christ's sake - MENSACTIVISM, hmmm? What do you think we do, speak in the queen's fucking english and have high fuckin' TEA?
You know, babe, I could refer you to a buttload of other boards. A lot of them I post on - and on some of them people think I'm William B.M.F. Buckley, I'm so damn erudite and civilized. (The BMF stands for Bad Mother Fucker, btw) And it's so damn refreshing to be able to kick off my shoes, drink a beer from the damn can, and shed the civilization for while and speak to other men in the manner of men. I get to call a dumb bitch a fuckin' dumb bitch, I don't have to pay lip service to Political Correctness, and most of all, if some fucking DUMBASS says something stupid, I can say, "Get your head out of your ass, DIPSHIT!"
Your request is not only highly unreasonable, it's about the stupidest fucking thing I've heard since about March, when some other stupid 'ho was flappin' her chops all PC and shit. ANd if anyone was to change it, I don't know whether I'd take up a collection to give them a spine, or circulate a petition to revoke their testicles.
You know, for sheer gall, you really take the cake. While we welcome women here, especially if they have cogent arguments, are sympathetic, or are at least entertaining - while we the regulars don't want to ban and censor opposing viewpoints (Let's face it, the best censorship for utter stupidity is the jeers and ridicule it so richly deserves) or women, and be fascists like the pheministas, in general you have to have a fundamental understanding of things. MENSactivism. MENS discussion. MEN communicating with each other.
Starting to see a pattern, sugar? Has the brick of cluelessness finally penetrated your estrogen-addled skull? There is no hanky of politeness here. Pull up a chair and listen, pull up a soapbox and speak (Have towel for rotten tomatoes if you speak bullshit), but not a damn man-jack is about to start snivelling, and yes ma'aming, and there will be no putting up curtains, turning over the Playboy calenders, or setting up fuckin' doilies. You want lace, herbal tea, and castration knives, go to the fuckin' MS boards.
Jesus Heironymious Christ.
* Putting the SMACKDOWN on Feminazis since 1989! *
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WTF? LMAO! Amazing! BTW, I always thought His middle name was Horatio. :)
With empowerment comes responsibility.
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Horatio? Bah. :-)
I've just never seen the sense of trying to handle with kid gloves those who aren't your friends and are not going to be your friends.
I mean, seriously, what are they going to do? Get in a perfect snit, and leave you alone and give you the silent treatment?
Hmmm - let's see - P.C. Twit gets pissed. Hmmm. Walks away. Hmmm. Doesn't fill my ear with nonsense? Hmmm. Oh, horrors. Be still, oh my broken heart. Please, oh please, B'rer Bear, DON'T THROW ME IN THAT BRIAR PATCH!
You'll pardon me for saying the obvious, but the irony of it all is overwhelming. I get them to give me everything I want, and I get to cheese off some bonehead? I lose here HOW?
* Putting the SMACKDOWN on Feminazis since 1989! *
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First off .... as usual, you make me love this board. You're so fucking blunt, and it's outstanding.
Second, I am having a problem. Maybe you could help me out on this. How do I add BOLD and ITALICIZED stuff to my posts. To emphasize what I write I have to capitalize and it's not nearly how I want to do it. Can you give me a step by step on this: I am blond and old ..
Thanks
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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Heh. Trouble is, if I tried to show you, it'd disappear.
Next time you're editing, look below where you're typing the text. See the little "greater than" and "less than" symbols above your comma and period?
Bold is "b" (now bear with me. Substitute the angle brackets for parentheses) if I wanted to say "HEY, STEVARINO!" and make it bold I'd type (b)HEY STEVARINO!(/b) - the slash-b makes it "Bold off"
Play with the allowed HTML a bit and use the preview button.
* Putting the SMACKDOWN on Feminazis since 1989! *
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thanks Gonzo =)
(b)test(/b)
hmmmm .... not working ... did the PLAIN TEXT, the HTML and the EXTRANS ... none of the 3 work ...... ACK!!
Can you E-mail me the answer .... you have my E-mail right? I sent you an article in the last few days .... just E-mail me =)
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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Steve,
In case Gonzo hasn't gotten back to you yet, and you want to try again now...
Where you had an open parenthesis "(" replace it with an open bracket -- it's above the comma on your keyboard. Then where you have a close-parenthesis ")" type instead the close bracket, which is above the period on your keyboard. Always remember to open and close the bold, unless you want everything that follows to be bold.
If that works, replace the "b" with an "i" and your bold letters will become italicized. Also, remember that you can see the effect using the "preview" key rather than the "send" key.
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[b] test [/b]
FUCK FUCK FUCK this is annoying.
I did it with PLAIN OLD TEXT, HTML, and EXTRANS ... and NONE NONE NONE WORKED .... can someone E-MAIL me the answer to my dilema. ACK!!
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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Steven,
Maybe your keyboard is different from mine. I know the keyboards sold in France are very different. On my keyboard, the brackets you used are to the right of my "p" key. You need to use the type of brackets that point to the right and left, such as this: >.
For instance use this bracket: >, where you've been using this ) and this ].
If it doesn't work, please post your email address.
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I think Thomas meant to say "greater/less than signs" instead of "brackets"
Testing Bold
Testing not bold
Looks like it is working...
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Oooops. A throwback to physics.
You're right, they're the greater than and less than signs. In physics we have these things for describing quantum mechanical systems that are called a bra and a ket. They look like the less than and greater than signs with vertical lines and various forms of scientific mumbo jumbo. Together they form "brackets" so I've gotten used to thinking of bracketing things with those less than and greater than signs. Anyway, on my keyboard they're the symbols above the comma and period.
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Feminazi's are lying scumbags
but you can't say it in public
only they can say it you sexist pig
the only thing I couldn't get to work was the last one ... it was supposed to be underlined.
Thanks guys
Steven B
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I saw him, he was running thata way officer. Don't believe me, ask my 6 foot invisible rabbit Harvey. (some are too young to remember that one)
Steven
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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Maybe too young to have seen it when it first came out, but certainly not too young to remember it. :)
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Same here! Where is it from?
With empowerment comes responsibility.
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Harvey the Rabbit .... he was a character from a Gary Cooper movie (man, I THINK it was a Gary Cooper movie)
Guerilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
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I had hysterics when I read SID ended up being STD. Heehee.
Weirdly enough, had a 17-year-old at the last drunken bash here wanting me to pierce his eyebrow, or at least provide sterile needles for it. Neither occured, as my syrienge and needle supply is depleted and they forgot about it [and I wasn't going to, not actually being a professional piercer].
Hope the guy doesn't get fined anyway, would be very silly in my opinion.
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