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by Anonymous User on Thursday August 14, @12:43AM EST (#1)
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Don't look now, but there are some people in this state that think that Warren Farrell is not only in touch with key issues that the other politicians are neglecting, but that he would very adequately address the major things that have been sending this once golden state into a downward spiral.
Governor Warren Farrell would certainly be a fairer man than Gray Davis and his ilk, when addressing family law legislation that affects men, women and children. I'm voting for Warren Farrell. You can count on it.
Ray
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by Anonymous User on Thursday August 14, @01:45AM EST (#2)
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You got that right Ray. Imagine what Warren would do to clean up the downright corrupt Department of Child Support Services and the entire family law system.
I'd also vote to give Adam an award for creative "department" names at mensactivism.org.
Marc
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by Anonymous User on Thursday August 14, @07:18AM EST (#4)
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"I really wonder as to whether or not he has the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the feminazis. I've seen him twice on TV talk show debates and both times he seemed a very timid soul."
Judging his books by their cover and their contents, I would say it took more than a timid soul to risk as much as he did, when he stood up to the popular feminist theories.
That alone speaks volumes (figuratively and literally). I will concede that he certainly is the antithesis of the shrill, screaming, gender feminist radical who gets her way by intimidation and thugery.
Due to the sticking power of Dr. Farrell I'm sticking with him. I really admire his ability to remain so unflapable in the face of some many screeching purveyors of misinformation and lies and do not really see that as "timidity," rather an ability to rise above the fray. I am confident he will do fine if his record in that area is any indication.
Sincerely, Ray
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Judging his books by their cover and their contents, I would say it took more than a timid soul to risk as much as he did, when he stood up to the popular feminist theories.
I agree that Warren is a great intellectual that is able to present the opposite side to an argument. However, I am critical of him because he doesn't seem to have any significant track record in lobbying for new laws that would make a difference in our state. This alone means that he lacks very critical experience in pushing for resolutions on men's issues. Without this key political experience he will be ineffective as a governor.
Warble
Disclaimer: My statements are intended to be personal opinion, belief, sarcasm, or allegation.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday August 14, @03:52PM EST (#13)
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Arnold S. doesn't have that experience either. But I'll vote for him before Gray Davis. And that's not a left/right vote, that's a men's rights vote. And even if Warren hasn't lobbied, he knows the issues and can make a great Ralph Nader by making the public more aware of the issues and pressuring California's candidates to address them. Every bit counts.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday August 14, @08:13PM EST (#14)
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"...lobbying for new laws that would make a difference in our state. This alone means that he lacks very critical experience in pushing for resolutions on men's issues."
Warble:
Dr. Farrell has a Master's degree in Political Science from UCLA and a Doctorate in Political Science from NYU, and is more than fully qualified to be Governor of CA. It isn't everyday that we get such a well qualified person to bring our views into the public forum. I am shocked, nay stunned that you would not show S-O-L-I-D-A-R-I-T-Y and close ranks behind this wonderful opportunity to back one of the most qualified men's issues leaders in the world. I am voting unequivocally for Dr. Warren Farrell for Governor of CA, and hope that every person concerned about the deplorable conditions men face in CA (paternity fraud, domestic violence, false arrests, divorce, child custody, etc.) joins me.
Sincerely, Ray
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I would urge you to check out if you are confusing civility with courage. Warren Farrell is a loving and civil man. When you see him on a program with the likes of Gloria Allred he will likely appear timid since he is not the type that will interupt or to scream. This doesn't in any way mean that he has little courage. If it had been a two hour program and he had been given a chance to speak his complete views on things I think you would have gotten a different picture. I think he has plenty of courage as Ray has pointed out, just standing up to the fems when NO ONE else was is a remarkable feat.
Farrell for Governor!
Stand Your Ground Forum
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by Anonymous User on Thursday August 14, @08:22AM EST (#6)
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Re "...very timid soul..."
Unfair, I think. The difference between Warren and the Daniel of Biblical fame is that Warren has gone into the lions' den on hundreds of occasions. I am reminded of another courteous soft spoken individual , namely Audie Murphy, who became the most decorated American soldier of world war 2. Warren is a real man; unlike the "traditional" loud mouthed brawling "man" who is too yellow to take on the feminists.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday August 14, @12:02PM EST (#7)
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The rad fem "ranters and ravers" who dominate the mass media may make for entertaining TV, but when they are confronted by Warren Farrell's diligence in research methods, adherence to fair-mindedness rather than gender warfare, and his reliance on facts rather than ideology -- then there is no contest as to who wins the integrity award.
I don't believe the feminists have been able to disprove any of his arguments or supporting research in THE MYTH OF MALE POWER, and so they resort to the usual Orwellian double-think and right-speech in the absence of credible rebuttals.
And by the way, there is a picture of Gloria Alred in Webster's Dictionary if you look up the phrase -- "hysterical banshee."
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I've seen him twice on TV talk show debates and both times he seemed a very timid soul.
I share this same concern in addition to his lack of political and management skills. Still I just hope he can make a credible presentation that will simply raise awareness about men's issues.
Will I vote for him to be governor. No.
Warble
Disclaimer: My statements are intended to be personal opinion, belief, sarcasm, or allegation.
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Warble said: "Will I vote for him to be governor. No."
Are you serious? Who else is running who might have "political and management skills" but also have a reasonable knowledge of the issues of men's rights? Is there someone you have in mind?
I think something to keep in mind here is that how well Warren shows in this election will be a sign to us and to others about where we are and how much support our ideas have. I see a vote for someone else as a vote against mens' rights. (unless there is someone else on the ballot that supports our ideas and views)
Stand Your Ground Forum
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I'd vote for Warren.
unless there is someone else on the ballot that supports our ideas and views
Given what a circus this election has become, and since I don't live in California, I'm thinking of running as an outsider. ;)
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by Anonymous User on Thursday August 14, @01:08PM EST (#11)
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"Will I vote for him to be governor. No.
Warble"
There he goes again. Look out the locomotive is off the track!
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"Will I vote for him to be governor. No."
I hope you reconsider. Even if you're convinced that his soft-spoken manner rules out the possibility of him carrying a big stick, keep in mind what he's really doing by running here.
"Still I just hope he can make a credible presentation that will simply raise awareness about men's issues."
I believe that's the goal. I don't think he honestly believes he can win, but he's doing exactly as you've said and trying to raise awareness for men's issues. The key is making a "credible presentation". It doesn't matter how well his speeches are written, how intelligently he explains men's issues, or how avidly his campaign is run, if nobody votes for him he doesn't have a credible presentation.
Consider the impact that would be made if Farrell could get just 10% of the vote. It would be a nice wake up call to future politicians, especially Democrats, that there is a large segment of the voting populace that is concerned about men's issues. What message would the future politicians get if men's activists won't even vote for Farrell?
One final point to anyone here who isn't supporting Farrell. In 30 years when your grandsons are asking why men's issues aren't being taken seriously and you tell them about how there was one candidate once that ran on men's issues but lost so badly no politician ever took them seriously again, and you mention how you personally decided not to vote for him because he was too timid, too aggressive, you didn't like his tie, etc. they might ask you if you voted your conscience. What will you tell them?
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by Anonymous User on Friday August 15, @04:55PM EST (#18)
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Warble,
I can only conclude that America is experiencing a heat wave comparable to that being experienced in Europe ( temperatures exceeding 40 degrees celsius), and that you are currently in some form of heat induced delirium state which has impaired your thinking.
As John McEnroe used to say: "YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!!!!!!".
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I'll probably vote for Warren Farrell.
I don't really care if Farrell lacks political or management skills. Gray Davis has tons of these skills and yet he, along with the state legislature, are equivalent to those individuals who have $30,000 credit card debts. They do what "feels good." They ignore the consequences.
Farrell has all but zero chance of becoming governer, but he stands for what he believes. He's a caring and a good person. More importantly, he believes in men's issues. Men's issues are all about fairness. I'll vote for a person who values fairness - one who believes in doing what is right.
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Here is Warren Farrell's Web site for his gubernatorial run.
I see he points out the fact that, for the same work, men now earn less than women. The radfems no doubt will at first deny this and then, when we get it to be common knowledge, they'll attempt to justify it with some nonsense about past discrimination. Let's not forget that in the past, with precious few exceptions, men had to marry and have children to advance in a career. They had to support women and their children. They also paid for dates with women before marriage. Today, women can use birth control, or have their abortions, and keep the money for themselves. They even still generally expect men to pay for their dates.
But that's an aside. I hope Warren does well in the gubernatorial race.
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