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Divorce As Revolution
posted by Thomas on Friday June 20, @11:47PM
from the Fatherhood dept.
Fatherhood In this essay, Dr. Stephen Baskerville briefly describes the war against fathers being waged by governments that increasingly encroach on our private lives. It's a good essay, with a lot of facts, but I have to say: I'm afraid he falls apart at the end. He recommends that fathers restore fatherhood with nonpolitical politics and a non-ideology "by re-creating the ordinary business of ‘civil society’ and private life," but he gives no details on how this might be done. With so much machinery stacked against fathers and husbands, their protests may have a mitigating effect, but they won't turn things around.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Young men can protect themselves by refusing to marry and by doing whatever they can (within reason) to avoid becoming fathers. Save your money. If things turn around by the time you're 55-years-old or so, you still want children, and you have a decent home and income, there will be plenty of women of child-bearing age in the US and elsewhere, who will be happy to marry you.

Good luck, gentlemen. The government is at war against you.

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Nonpolitical politics (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Sunday June 22, @12:31AM EST (#1)
I think I have an idea of the kind of "nonpolitical politics" and/or "re-creation of civil society" Dr. Baskerville may be advocating. Realize that, as a professor at Howard University, Dr. Baskerville has to be careful about how far he goes and exactly what he says, but I think that reading between the lines a little bit, and also judging by his analogy to Eastern Europe, I believe I see what he's getting at.

In every case, when an monstrously enormous government takes over almost the entire economy, there appears a thriving black market. This happens even in non-Communist countries like Peru, where so many governmental hoops need to be jumped through (and government officials bribed) to get anything done officially, that much of the economy takes place "under the table". There's not really much the government can do to stop it. A few people may be arrested and tried to make an example of, but the underground economy is so pervasive that the government is not going to able to shut it down.

So, that's precisely what's going to happen, and what is happening, when the screws get put tighter and tighter on non-custodial parents, so that their economic survival is made impossible in the white economy. And so the system will eventually collapse of its own weight, when wives contemplating divorce know their husbands are likely to disappear into the underground economy, and when the gravy train paying the salaries of family court judges, lawyers, psychologists, child support enforcement personnel, etc., is derailed. It's "nonpolitical" politics.

I'll also give an example of re-creating an institution of civil society, specifically marriage, apart from government. If a man today still desires a relationship, but doesn't want to get taken to the cleaners, he has essentially two options.

He can:

1) Marry a devout, conservative, religious woman for whom divorce is seriously sinful and out the question (I believe Catholics, many Protestant denominations, and Muslims fit this qualification).

2) Get a vasectomy, and make sure that no relationship lasts longer than a year (so that he doesn't get hit up for "palimony").

Note how the only women who will get married under this scenario are precisely the ones who won't divorce. So, therefore, marriage will in essence be re-created as a stable institution, regardless of what government does. And, should any woman be tempted, she will realize that her husband is surrounded by a network of friends who will aid him in going underground, if necessary, making the outcome similar to the days of fault-based divorce where a woman was not entitled to alimony if she was the one responsible for the marriage breakup. Thus, this will even further stabilize the institution of marriage, radical feminist hysterics notwithstanding.

I could probably come up with several more examples. I don't wish to discourage those who are fighting the good fight in our legislatures and courtrooms across the country. Unfortunately, I can't realistically be that optimistic about real change being effected that way. I think our whole political system and government are rotten to the core and can't be cured. They are just going to have to be left to rot away until the right time comes for a change, as happened in Eastern Europe.

Vince S.

My Brother (Score:2)
by The Gonzo Kid (NibcpeteO@SyahPoo.AcomM) on Monday June 23, @09:49AM EST (#2)
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Exactly. This is just the type of contingency that will make things happen - change things in reality, and the women who don't support pheminism, but are impacted by their silence and complicity - they will decide to be silent and complicit no more.

Amen!

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