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Special Events and Violence
posted by D on Saturday January 25, @03:12PM
from the dept.
Domestic Violence Dan Lynch writes "This weekend is SuperBowl weekend. It has been reported (falsley I add) that this was a weekend when domestic violence skyrockets and shelter phone lines go threw the roof. None of this was substantiated in any form whatsoever. I'd like to point out that this scare tactic (that teaches women to both fear and hate men) is becoming more and more common. Shelters in Ireland were trying to pull the same stunt on their World Cup Soccer. It has also been reported that DV spikes during Christmas time. None of these allegations are accountable for and none of the accusers state whether or not men are asked about abuse against them. This is a common tactic no doubt to cash in on the events themselves. Im sure they will expand to every and anything they can think of for the bottom line M-O-N-E-Y. I didnt add any links, this post is meant as a reminder, but feel free to list some of relevence. Enjoy your weekend, Dan."

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Debunking the DV myth (Score:1)
by Willj on Saturday January 25, @10:11PM EST (#1)
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Christina Hoff Sommers book Who Stole Feminism was the first place I saw the Super Bowl myth debunked. She did an excellent job describing the whole thing - she quoted the reporter who tracked down the source of this myth. (Do I recall correctly that the reporter was a Ken Ringell(?) at the Washington Post??)

For those who haven't read much about the way that DV is manipulated to destroy innocent men see www.batteredmen.com. The reference list is phenomenal. Martin Fiebert's annotated bibliography is excellent. Also read the various pieces by Murray Straus. Note a nice Cathy Young article there as well. As I recall, she got the story entirely right.

Though it should not need saying, I think actual domestic violence is a terrible crime regardless of the sex of the perpetrator and victim. Too bad feminists only care when the victim is a woman. By actual domestic violence I mean physically assaulting or clearly threatening to physically assault a domestic partner. Disagreeing, arguing, yelling, cursing, striking the table, stomping your feet, failing to provide emotional support, etc are NOT domestic violence, though many feminists claim them to be when they identify the man as the perp and the woman as the victim. Of course, if the woman does these things it is NOT domestic violence according to feminists. Now I suppose rational people could argue a bit about this definition, and I suppose there might be room for interpretation as to what some specific action might mean.

The main problem once we get into interpretation is that feminists treat women as helpless children in the argument. They claim that women are so weak and so incompetant, so irrationally fearful, that anything, even a harsh word can terrorize them. So just about anything a man does can be classified as DV, based on how an individual woman feels at any moment. Again, I am not minimizing real domestic violence.

This is very much like the way feminists define rape - i.e. as anything any woman at any time decides she doesn't quite like. And of course, with both of these, the woman is allowed to change her mind whenever and as often as she wishes. Though it should not require my saying so, I am totally opposed to forcing anyone to have sex.

Of course, in both cases, feminists claim that women NEVER lie. Apparently feminists do not consider women to be human, as we all know that lying is a rather common human behavior. I find this remarkable - I have always considered women to be human beings (and completely equal at that), but, of course, feminists and I do not tend to agree about many things, so perhaps it is not too surprising that they do not.

Will
Re:Debunking the DV myth (Score:2)
by Dan Lynch on Saturday January 25, @11:45PM EST (#2)
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I bet if anything that its men who are seriously harmed from their spouse on this day.

The wives are pissed off because the men are going somewhere to watch the game instead of paying attention to them. Spend money on food and drink and away from the family.

I bet women slap , tease and taunt men in large amounts. Geeez.
Re:Debunking the DV myth (Score:2)
by frank h on Monday January 27, @02:13PM EST (#3)
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And they'll probably do it in the commercials and the sitcoms surrounding this date, therefore documenting it, but no one will notice but us.
Re:Debunking the DV myth (Score:2)
by Dan Lynch on Tuesday January 28, @11:16PM EST (#4)
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Which is exactly why we should be making a noise about it, Frank.

Let alone men speaking out about violence committed against them.

It's my opinion that this sort of false premise taints juries against men on a general level. Not sure how we can deal with this as men remarkably in high numbers just do not call to complain to police.
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