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Much of it is typical venemous attacks based on a person's experiences with anothe person.
The IWF has an article in their sister mag that actually critisizes 'male bashing'. This is a good thing.
"Girls Against Boys: The Ritual of Male Bashing and the Women Who Hate It" Is the name of the title piece and here is the link.
http://www.shethinks.org/articles/an00244.cfm
Im glad to see that some women are standing up to this. Unfortunately its only conservative women on the whole that seem to do this. Oddly when its liberal women who do all the activism type things about human rights etc.. according to them.
"Sarah Sutter is graduating from Virginia Tech in May and hopes to attend journalism school in the fall."
This is important as we know the 'lace curtain' tends to hold back a lot of men in journalist areas. As sad as it makes me that only women in mainstream journalism can speak about gender issues and as we know mostly in a feminist light or even anti-male. Maybe Ms. Sutter will add something to that yeild like Wendy McElroy and to some degree Christine Stolba.
Also, lets keep our own voices going. As I have been in court all week discussing issues of discrimination against men in all areas related to sex. The continual feedback that I get is that men are simply not calling the police or complaining. We truely are the Voiceless.
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*Radical Feminists make Nazis look like Humanitarians.*
Hi, Dan. I'd be careful about using this tag line. I wouldn't want to seem like I was minimizing the suffering of concentration camp victims.
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"Hi, Dan. I'd be careful about using this tag line. I wouldn't want to seem like I was minimizing the suffering of concentration camp victims."
I'm not. Its a part of history and seemingly a part of history that we have forgotten. We should be quick to point out the simularities of the two ideologies so that the same thing doesn't cresendo against any other group again in history. Socialism has a tendancy to do that.
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by Anonymous User on Thursday January 16, @02:03PM EST (#5)
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The Nazi movement required a scapegoat, the Jews, the non-Aryans, to be a dumping ground for the percieved ills of Germany.
Men, and non feminist indoctrinated women, fill the same role in feminist ideology.
The comparison is not only apt, it's completely accurate, and needs to be broadcast as often as possible. Feminazi is a good word, because a feminist is a Nazi in a reincarnated body.
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The comparison is not only apt, it's completely accurate, and needs to be broadcast as often as possible.
Wrong, oh anonymous one.
You point out a similarity, something of an equivalence, between Nazism and feminism and then support a statement, which claims that feminism is far worse than Nazism. I would agree with a statement that Nazism and radical feminism have many similarities and, on a fundamental level, are equally hateful and evil. I do not however agree that feminism is far worse than Nazism, that radical feminists make Nazis look like humanitarians.
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Having written the above, I will add that Dan obviously has the right to have just about anything he wants as a tag line. He's got a good attitude, I agree with a lot of what he says, and he is a staunch member of the truth and justice movement.
For the reasons I've given, though, I wouldn't use the tag line myself.
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"For the reasons I've given, though, I wouldn't use the tag line myself."
You're opinions are deeply appreciated,Thomas. So in regards to your concern I have had a woman jew call me on my use of the word "FemiNazi". I admit that it is possibly inflamatory but I will try to articulate my response to her as best I can.
A Paraphrase from Jane"As a person of jewish background and a woman I am deeply offended by the word Feminazi and your comparisons of the two"
My response: " You should be offended, Jane, and that is my very point. The very same tactics that was used in earlier Germany to rise up the people an unbelievable amount of people is in use today. Misleading information and propaganda that was purposeful in design to annihalate an entire group of people.
These lies and views of hatred were very depised by my family so much so that my great uncle gave his life on his 21st birthday to fight that corruption. In retrospect when my history class taught me of the evils of this group I was smart enough to learn that it is the ideology that we must fight regardless of the victim group. The Names and players may change but the game is still the same.
I in no way wish to diminish your loss or losses, but we must learn from what happened from history to fight the tyranny of today. When I speak out it is not to dishonour but to in fact honour so that these tradgedies NEVER repeat themselves.
Generation after generation of conditioned prejudice has the ability to place powerful people in positions of horrendeous distruction.
If anyone has a formal essay on the comparisons of Nazism and Feminism please post it. Thank you.
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The other day I was thinking about Marxist feminism (yes, I should get out more), which views women as the proletariat and men as the oppressive bourgoisie. In this respect, feminism can be viewed as a recasting of Marxism. It then struck me that feminism can also be viewed as a recasting of Nazism.
The Nazis believed that the Aryan race was a superior breed; the 'master-race' destined to rule the world by virtue of its greater claim to humanity. Other races were inferior, and so were to be denied basic rights and reduced to serf-like status. For Jews the fate would be even worse. To Nazis, the Jews were racial enemies; a polluting, corrupting force; impure; stupid and at the same time cunning and clever; devious and subhuman ('untermenschen'). Jews were 'over-represented' in many areas of German life, such as the media, banking and business. This was clearly part of a plot against the Aryan race, which necessitated the creation of increasingly draconian laws to limit Jewish involvement in public life. Relationships between Aryans and Jews were at first discouraged and then outlawed. They were driven out of German schools and other institutions, endlessly slandered, and harrassed at every opportunity. Having identified Jews as the major source of 'pollution' and corruption within German society, the inevitable 'final solution' was their complete elimination.
'Nazi Feminism', as it could be called, casts women as the new Aryans - the pure ones, the superior ones, the ones destined to rule the world. Men are now the polluting, corrupting untermenschen (apparently Germaine Greer called men 'subhuman' in 'The Female Eunuch'). Men are 'over-represented' in public life, and this is clearly part of a plot against women. New laws have to be created to limit men and to protect women from their corrupting influence. Men are stupid, and yet cunning and clever; devious; untrustworthy. The education system is hostile to them, and harrassment laws allow for their dismissal on the most spurious grounds. Outright lies about their abusive behaviour are promoted by governements across the world. They are slandered as a matter of routine throughout the media. Under Nazi-feminism, men are the racial enemies of women. Indeed, this is a more accurate representation of the feminist view of the sexes than the Marxist-derived idea of 'class'. Clearly there are many men whose lives put them in a much lower class than the average woman, and even some outright manhaters can be made to admit this through gritted teeth if you threaten to whap them with a big enough stick (but no thicker than your thumbs, OK guys?). The idea of a racial enemy doesn't suffer from the contradictions of a class-based view. It also appeals to the true bigot because, unlike class differences, there is no way to eliminate it except by subjugation or outright genocide.
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A fine analysis, Uberganger. I agree with the comparison of mainstream/radical feminism and Nazism. Those feminists view men as racial enemies, who must be exterminated, or reduced to a controllable percentage of the population. They know that, if and when they've reduced men to that controllable percentage of the population, men will never again be able to rise up and regain any human rights.
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I want to point out again, for clarity, that I don't object to pointing out equivalences between feminism and Nazism. What I don't agree with is any contention that radical/mainstream feminism is far worse than Nazism. Rather, I believe that there is great similarity, as Uberganger has pointed out.
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"What I don't agree with is any contention that radical/mainstream feminism is far worse than Nazism. Rather, I believe that there is great similarity, as Uberganger has pointed out."
Thanks Thomas. Again, I mean no disrespect and I admit my remarks are garnered to gain reaction. I also want to note that there is a great deal of many horrible things going on every day to men on a far broader scale from country to country.
As I have heard many times before and as Uberganger has successfully pointed out, is that, there is a great "transfer" of wealth that is happening. The other part of Nazism is Socialism. They were called the Nationalist Socialist party. In their case the *target* group was the Jews. In our case the *target* group is Men or the male gender.
This by and large is a human rights violation in the guise of 'human rights'. Very ironic. But they are not fooling me anymore.
This is not to say that one can not be liberal or conservative or whatever you choose. My opinion is, if you want to give your money away that is your choice. The most qualified person for the job, should get the job. Equal pay for equal work.
I think that children are better raised with both parents and attentive parents. That we do have some *moralities* to live up to and set as an example to our children. I don't mean to lecture, but knowing the problem helps us come closer to a solution.
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I certainly don't mean to argue with you, Dan. In fact, I'll add to what I've written that I find radical/mainstream feminism to be far more insidious than Nazism. Consummate monsters though they were, the Nazis would not have done to their children what the radical/mainstream feminists are doing to their sons.
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"I certainly don't mean to argue with you, Dan."
I know. I also think you have a valid concern. As an activist my goal is to create the 'collective mind'. Of course I don't mean drones of men mindlessly regurgitating what I say, rather; the minds of men who do know what I am saying. Combined with a good reason with why they are saying what they are saying.
Feminists and the victim industry have come up with many slogans to promote their cause. One slogan is the 'No means No'. Needless to say the complexities of sex are never represented and all forms of debate on the subject are anihalated with hostile emotionalism. A very , very effective propaganda piece if there ever was one.
So in accordance I am looking for such slogans to get our point across. The difference is, is that I want discussion, I want debate. It is my belief that the very acts of discussion and debate will bring us closer to women and ultimately closer to a solution of our joint interests. So it is in our interest to prepare individuals with a good back up arguement to the slogan.
It is still my belief that empathy and compassion will be our greatest weapons against the hatred that is being pushed against men. Those dividing forces will not be as effective to the informed person. If they spread hate we spread love. But we need something to get them on the hook as it were.
Now this does not mean we give in or forfeit or allow for rediculous concessions. What it means is, we push for a chance at principled negotiation. Principled negotiation will hopefully bring about a better fairness for us all.
As for 'fake feminists' disguised as socialists or communists. The best thing we can do is expose them for what they really are.
Women as a whole are not are direct enemies. It is the propaganda producers that twist and turn women against men that should be our main targets.
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Radical feminists do make Nazis look like humanitarians. At least the Nazis had the decency to eventually put the Jews out of their misery.
Radfems are much closer to the perpetrators of the slave trade. Now there's a much better comparison. Let's make second class citizens - 2/3 people, sound familiar? - who will labor and we will enjoy the fruits thereof.
Things to make ya go, "Hmmmmmmm."
---- Burn, Baby, Burn ----
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WOMEN IN POLITICS: Man sees effort as anti-male
I read The Expositor's story "Wanted:female politicians." I was offended by some of the phrases that were used in this advertising gimmick. I also feel that it is mostly code for feminist speak and the class itself will end up being none other than some sort of indoctrination coamp with anti-male propaganda as the main format for the class as it was for the article.
The article failed to mention that most voters are women and that is is most likely women who are voting for these male politicians in. It also failed to mention Karen George, one of Brantford's former mayors. Regardless of George's popularity or track record, the woman made an effort and did what she felt would help Brantford.
I take issue with the "drones" of male politicians statement as well as the "ape" male politicians statement. Its my opinion that these statements were crafted in order to de-humanize the male element of our society.
We do not need further aggravating forces to divide us and an anti-male propaganda course disguised as a political course for women will not help.
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