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McElroy Questions Battered Woman Syndrome
posted by Scott on Friday October 25, @12:35PM
from the news dept.
News kade writes "FoxNews has an excellent argument against "Battered Woman Syndrome", which claims that battered women are psychologically traumatized and therefore not responsible for their violent actions. As stated in the article, BWS is "a legal defense available to women and de facto denied to men."" Wendy McElroy is the author of this excellent piece.

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you poke me, I kill you...it's OK (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Friday October 25, @04:45PM EST (#1)

To what 'ends' the feminists are working for seem far from democratic or elightened...


Thank you Wendy (Score:1)
by Tom on Friday October 25, @09:17PM EST (#2)
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Thank you Wendy for taking a stand on this. I find it repulsive that women who have murdered their husbands can be viewed in such a manner while the men who kill their wives are of course vilified and condemned. Double standard. Just like with DV where the women who abuse are assumed to have been abused by their husbands and excused because of this assumption. Thanks for getting the word out.
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Re:Thank you Wendy (Score:2)
by warble (activistwarble@yahoo.com) on Friday October 25, @11:42PM EST (#3)
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My thoughts exactly. Well said.

Thanks Wendy,

Warb
Disclaimer: My statements are intended to be personal opinion, belief, sarcasm, or allegation.
Re:Thank you Wendy (Score:1)
by Ray on Saturday October 26, @08:19AM EST (#4)
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Excellent article.

Considering how the battering of men is not recognized:

"FOR BATTERED MEN THE BATTERING NEVER ENDS"

Ray
I disagree. (Score:1)
by John Knouten on Sunday October 27, @03:56PM EST (#5)
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                The only problem with battered wife syndrome is that it is applied only to women abused by their husbands. In reality, most criminals suffer from a battered person syndrome. 99% of all homicide offenders were terribly abused as children.

                And while in Canada, UK and France female offenders do in fact get much shorter sentences, even male offenders are not treated there with excessive harshness. People in civilised nations do understand that all humans have rights.

                In USA, and even more so in Louisiana, Texas, Alabama and Mississippi courts have absolutely no notion of human rights. Especially for a male offender.

PUNISHMENT AND CRIME
Re:I disagree. (Score:1)
by Hunsvotti on Monday October 28, @03:34PM EST (#10)
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I find a lot to agree with in your post. I understand the idea of battered woman syndrome, but to tell you the truth, yeah, that is nonsense that such an idea is only afforded to women.

It's been known for aeons that the violence people display to the world reflects the violence that's been displayed to them. "They don't get it from the dirt," my great-Grandmother used to say (referring to Adam, who was formed from the earth). The general population in this country refuses to see that because it doesn't conform with the Easy Answer, which is to lock people up or electrocute them when they act out the terrible pain in their hearts. But, hey, out of sight, out of mind, right? Right. And stuffing all your clutter into a big closet will prevent you from having to actually deal with it.

Florida (or was it Texas?) executed a man with an IQ of 59 for the crime of murder. That's the kind of shit that goes on in this country - we kill RETARDED PEOPLE, we try children as adults (but they still have to get someone's signature to go on a FIELD TRIP), and a few of us even think that minors should be housed with adults in "correctional facilities" that correct nothing, unless creating unemployable, disease-ridden, society-hating psychopaths is considered a "correction."

The "battered woman syndrome" defense is only the tip of the iceberg. I could probably write a five-page article on this topic, but this probably isn't the place, so I'll just sum it up: If you commit a crime, your responsibility is to make amends - first to the victim(s), and second to yourself, because to commit a crime is to defile oneself.
BWS Does Not Always Work (Score:2)
by Luek on Sunday October 27, @07:26PM EST (#6)
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http://www.courttv.com/trials/taped/holliman/backg round.html

Here is a case on the Court TV site about a woman who hired hit men to kill her husband for what else, his insurance.

She and the hit men got away with it for a couple of years but were eventually caught and tried.

Cutting to the chase,and to what makes this case relevant the woman used the old reliable, Battered Woman Syndrome as her defense. She was however found guilty and sentenced to life without possibility of parole. The majority of the jury that sentenced this black widow to the maximum that was allowed were WOMEN!

I have an uneasy feeling that if the majority of the jury had been men rather than women she would have been sentenced to the lesser sentence of possibility of parole after 20 years OR more than likely the MEN would have bought into her BWS bullsh** hook line and sinker and found her not guilty because of that! I wonder why I would have that feeling?
Re:BWS Does Not Always Work (Score:1)
by Ray on Sunday October 27, @11:20PM EST (#7)
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chivalry?
Re:BWS Does Not Always Work (Score:1)
by Tom on Sunday October 27, @11:48PM EST (#8)
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Yes, chivalry indeed....provide and protect has bred contempt and neglect.
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Battered Men's syndrome (Score:2, Insightful)
by Tony (MensRights@attbi.com) on Monday October 28, @06:15AM EST (#9)
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I wonder at times why noone has argued for a battered men syndrome? Anyone that takes an honest look at the facts can see that the likelyhood for a man to be abused is vastly higher than any woman. What about the constant physical bullying that occurs in school? Would not the kids who commit school shootings be victims of Battered children syndrome? What about the male stigma of weakness that requires men to stand up to physical abuse and mental teasing to be considered a "real man?" It seems that men are victims of a social battering syndrome that begins at adolesence and continues until they die. It seems resonable that if society can understand the pain of abuse that allows a women to "snap" and burn a man in his bed while he is sleeping should also be equally understanding of the man who "loses it" and goes on a shooting spree. ....... Of course this is all just a dream. In reality very few people see the enourmous suffering that men endure every day. Working themselves until their body or their mind gives out. Putting up a wall of defence against real and potential attacks against their person. Wouldn't it be nice if a man's life was a safe as a woman's?
Tony
Re:Battered Men's syndrome (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on Tuesday October 29, @12:53PM EST (#11)
Something else.
Women have also gotten away with murdering their husbands by claiming; "P.M.S made me do it!"

Okay, then, If TESTOSTERONE is the chemical soup that makes men "evil" and "violent" then shouldn't that be a built-in excuse for men to kill women...?
"Your Honor, I suffer from E. M. T. S. (evil man testosterone syndrome) THAT's why I killed my wife."
...yeah, THAT'D fly.

        Thundercloud.
          "Hoka-hey!"

PS. to any wise-guy Trolls out there, NO, I do NOT advocate killing women and claiming that testosterone should be an excuse to use to get away with murder.
(You HAVE to make a disclaimer about things like this because as we all know Trolls will run with it and say; "See, Men WANT to kill women!!!")
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