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To me it sounds like the writer was confused about his attraction to the place. He knew he should be against such a concept...but something about the place was intoxicating and uplifting.
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by Anonymous User on Tuesday October 22, @01:26PM EST (#2)
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Me either.
I'd really LIKE to find some place such as this.
No feminists or Women who want to be seudo-men, to bother you, or try to imitate their favorite female TV character, and try and 'boss you around'.
THAT would be nearly heaven!
Of course, I allready live in the "sticks" far away from women like that, But you can never get far ENOUGH away from them.
Siriously, though. Isn't it interesting how WOMEN can have all their "ALL GIRLS" bastions? If THEY do it it's considered perfectly fine.
But if Men have even ONE "All-boy's-club", it is SEXISM incarnate, and 'MUST be ELLIMINATED!!'
Thundercloud.
"Hoka-hey!"
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This is just like Augusta: a place that's just for men that the wimmin want to destroy just because they can. And the thing is, they can't, really, if the men are resolved for this to be what it is. If Hootie Johnson and the rest of the membership of Augusta simply rely on their principles and stand their ground, then the Burke woman and the NCWO will eventually go away. If they succeed in forcing the PGA to renounce the Master's and Augusta STILL persists, and I think they should, then ultimately they will have won. Even though it may appear to be a Pyrric (sp?) victory, it will be short-lived and the Master's can quietly return to Augusta.
I think the same thing of Athos. If they simply stand on their sovereignty and persist, then they will eventually win out.
Unfortunately, there is money at stake. In the case of Augusta, I suspect the money they make from the Master's allows them to operate at a substantially higher standard than they would otherwise afford to, and the loss of that revenue would change the club forever. In the case of Athos, the EU dangled money for renovations in front of them and they took it (fools!) without considering what strings might be attached later on.
Back when honor meant more than money, neither of these things would ever have happened. But we have been seduced by material things, and as Zubaty has pointed out to us, materialism is a feminine evil.
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I knew there was an 'h' in there somewhere :-)
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I don't have any idea what Pyrrhic means, I just know what it's spelled like. :)
/me goes to look it up...
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A pyrrhic victory is one that costs so much to attain that in the end, it may not be worth having. Many say that the American Civil War constituted a pyrrhic victory for the Union.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday October 23, @10:51PM EST (#9)
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Don't feel bad Hunsvoti.
I don't know what 'pyrrhic' means either. and had NO idea how to spell it.
But, then, I don't know how to spell too well to begin with.
Well, no one's perfickt.
Thundercloud.
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by Anonymous User on Wednesday October 23, @10:55PM EST (#10)
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See, Hunsvotti? I even spelled your NAME wrong, in the previous post.
Thundercloud.
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by Anonymous User on Saturday October 26, @12:36AM EST (#11)
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That's what I was thinking, too.
It seems it's a little from column 'A' and a little from column'B'.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka-hey!"
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For those that don't know.
Pyrrhic \pir-ik\ adjective [Pyrrhus, king of Epirus who sustained heavy losses in defeating the Romans] (1885)
: achieved at excessive cost ; also : costly to the point of negating or outweighing expected benefits
(C) 1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated
A great word!
Tony
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So, if the feminists win, then ultimately, it will be a Pyrrhic victory, 'cause there won't be much worthwhile left to claim.
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I think that the summary of the article is definintely male positive in its spin. I believe that much of the text is playing with common notions people have about men. It is interesting the picture that is brought to mind when people think of "shops that have never been used, kept -or cleaned- by women." Is the image that comes to your mind of a filthy, unkempt mess or a neat in tidy shop? Interesting how our social biases about men effect our reading of a simple line isn't it?
In general I liked the article and found it insightful and enouraging. Although the idea that the EU is pressuring them to change conserns me. I find it odd that any privacy that is specific to men is attacked as sexist. Everything from lockerooms to country clubs is being attacked IF it only allows men. Why is it women only groups are NEVER looked at as sexist?
Tony
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