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by Anonymous User on Sunday February 10, @11:01AM EST (#1)
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i recognize that it's important to point out that the commonly held viewpoints of the genders are not as clear cut or as accurate as they seem. indeed, they can often be comepletely false. however, i'm worried that by focusing on the faults we may inadvertantly hop on the blame-train. thoughts on this?
-brad
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by Anonymous User on Sunday February 10, @11:09AM EST (#2)
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These girls belong in a prison, locked down tight.
Frank H
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by Anonymous User on Sunday February 10, @11:31AM EST (#3)
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and i don't disagree with you in the least, on that.
-brad
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Has anyone done an analysis of criminal sentencing of women over the last forty years to see what the harshness of the penalties were for woman-on-woman crime versus woman-on-man crime? I know there was some question during the eighties about the disparity between black-on-white crime versus black-on-black crime. The claim was that black-on-white crime was dealt with more harshly than black-on-black crime, supposedly because the CJ system valued whites more favorably. I don't know if this actually went anywhere, but I would not be surprised to see that woman-on-man crime is not dealt with as harshly as woman-on-woman crime. After all, men are not worth as much, are they?
Frank H
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Frank, I believe there are some studies on the topic. I'd have to take time to look...
I know there was one which used Vehicular Homicide. What they found was that only white-males and black-females were assured a fair trial. White females received a lot of preferential treatment and black-males were severely discriminated against. I think there authors made a comment similar to "any white woman has the right to run over and kill any black man." (Going on memory here!)
I do know there are also some studies of sentencing in family violence which say much the same thing as above.
Greg
the Volksgaren Project: Intelligent Abuse Recovery, http://clix.to/support/, jaxom@amtelecom.net, 519-773-9644
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i recognize that it's important to point out that the commonly held viewpoints of the genders are not as clear cut or as accurate as they seem. indeed, they can often be comepletely false. however, i'm worried that by focusing on the faults we may inadvertantly hop on the blame-train. thoughts on this?
Hi, Brad.
I understand your concern, and let me point out that MANN has a policy of not posting stories about women who commit crimes unless they are specifically related to men's rights (we're not here to point fingers).
I posted this story, however, specifically because of the one individual who mentioned the girls' "emotional problems." It seemed to me that they've already got their defense locked up in that, and, considering Andrea Yates, they may very well be dealth with less severity than a group of boys who did something like this.
I'm going to keep an eye on this case. Naturally, it will be worth posting the outcome of their trial.
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by Anonymous User on Sunday February 10, @01:59PM EST (#6)
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Sugar and spice and everything nice.
That's what little girls are made of.
Their voices screech.
They'll douse you with bleach.
Their moms should have used a contraceptive device.
They'll set you on fire.
They'll kill you for hire.
You'll need John Bobbit's prosthetic device.
If you think they're cute.
Here's a word of advice.
You'd better think twice.
You'll be lucky if all you get is head lice.
The Madcap Misogynist
PS: They'll look good in stripes!
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Good god, of course they have emotional problems, they're hideously sadistic attempted murderers. I'm scrouging around Department of Justice Statistics for men vs. women if I find anything real interesting I'll post it.
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Good god, of course they have emotional problems, they're hideously sadistic attempted murderers. I'm scrouging around Department of Justice Statistics for men vs. women if I find anything real interesting I'll post it.
Thanks, crescentluna. I'm interesting in knowing what you find.
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No luck yet on female-against-female vs female-against-male crimes sentencing ratios, but the site is huge, I'll keep looking.
The one interesting tidbit I found was men in 1994 were less likely, statistically, to be murdered by their Intimate (spouse, ex-spouse, boy/girlfriend) than women. It's around 30.1% of female murderes are committed by their Intimate, vs. 3.8% of male murders.
However, males are murdered at a much higher rate than women, out of total murders of Intimates, about 1/4 are males murdered by their Intimate. This is also KNOWN murders, not "we suspect it was" type of thing.
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I've seen the figures. One must be extremely careful with such figures.
There's a case here which shows the problem. A study came out looking at on-the-job murders. It found that such murders made up 21% of female victim murder and 3% of male. The thing is in the study there were 40 men murdered on-the-job and 3 women. The articles and advertising promoting the wholesale murder of women on the job set back the efforts of safety professionals for several years and likely cost several people their lives.
Greg
the Volksgaren Project: Intelligent Abuse Recovery, http://clix.to/support/, jaxom@amtelecom.net, 519-773-9644
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