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UK: Teenage girls are 'out of control'
posted by Matt on 11:10 AM May 20th, 2006
Education Anonymous User writes "Clearly these poor girls are victims of the white male patriarchy. We need to help them. Notice one of the solutions is to make school more interesting for these poor girls. Yes, gear school to be even more feminized. Also, its ironic that the headline isn't 'Boys better Behaved than Girls'. Story here. Excerpt:

'In a disturbing confirmation of the spread of the 'ladette' culture, it found violence, aggression and self-destructive behaviour has spread alarmingly among girls over the past 20 years.'"

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No Girl Wants To Be a Girlie-Girl (Score:2)
by Roy on 12:09 PM May 20th, 2006 EST (#1)
It's pretty obvious that women today want to be "like a man."

Accelerating female aggression, acting out, sexualizing childhood, G.I. Janes, Girrllls Gone Wild, Desperate HouseWhores, pole dancers as superstars, porn/raunch culture in all its forms ...

It's all a kind of psychotic fem-circus parody of what women fantasize "being a man" is all about.

They want power, but they do not understand it in the least.

And we wonder why there are zero significant female philosophers?

All women are "fluffers" when it comes to thinking-in-depth about anything.

They'd rather merely "feel" the Truth.

It's less inconvenient that way.


Re:No Girl Wants To Be a Girlie-Girl (Score:1)
by Baniadam on 04:11 PM May 20th, 2006 EST (#6)
"Women have been discouraged from genres such as sculpture that require studio training or expensive materials. But in philosophy, mathematics, and poetry, the only materials are pen and paper. Male conspiracy cannot explain ALL female failures. I am convinced that, even without restrictions, there still would have been no female Pascal, Milton, or Kant. . . . Even now, with all vocations open, I marvel at the rarity of the woman driven by artistic or intellectual obsession, that self-mutilating derangement of social relationship which, in its alternate forms of crime and ideation, is the disgrace and glory of the human species."
Camille Paglia

We are not the same! Men are better apart at one thing.

"The best couturiers, hairdressers, home designers and cooks are men. I suspect that, were it biologically possible, men would make better mothers."
Ida Alexa Ross Wylie ‘The Little Woman’ 1945.

Be proud of being a man.
Re:No Girl Wants To Be An Illusion of a Girl? (Score:2)
by Roy on 12:21 AM May 21st, 2006 EST (#8)
That's a hoot!

You are suggesting that men are better at thinking (philosophy) and also caring... (nurturing) children?

That is nothing short of blasphemy.

Or genius.

(Oh, let's not go there ... too many feminists will be inhaling vapors and passing out in the face of actual thinking....)

Women are, in fact, rather trivial, yes?

Not my opinion. Just an observation.

They insist upon their identity as illusions-in-disguise.

I'd wish for more actual depth and character.

But they seem to be so ...

insubstantial?

Does that make me a misogynist?
Re:No Girl Wants To Be a Girlie-Girl (Score:1)
by Martian Bachelor on 01:25 AM May 24th, 2006 EST (#15)
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"... women today want to be "like a man."

Roy, have you by any chance just been reading Ariel Levy's book "Female Chauvinist Pigs" (Women and the Rise of Raunch Culture)?

She makes the same argument. Not sure that I buy it - I chalk these sorts of datapoints up to decades of females ingesting The Barbie Mantra: Girls Can Do Anything!

Remember, if you suggest a female shouldn't do something you're oppressing her.

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What these damsels need (Score:1)
by Bert on 01:10 PM May 20th, 2006 EST (#2)
http://www.steen-online.nl/man/
is a good ass whipping.

Bert
-------------------- From now on, men's rights first.
Re:What these damsels need (Score:1)
by Thundercloud on 01:26 PM May 20th, 2006 EST (#3)
>" is a good ass whipping."

I doubt it, Bert.
knowing the way a lot of these girls are they'd probably LIKE it...!

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:What these damsels need (Score:1)
by Bert on 01:41 PM May 20th, 2006 EST (#4)
http://www.steen-online.nl/man/
Damn, you're right Thundercloud, I didn't think of that.

Bert
-------------------- From now on, men's rights first.
Re:What these damsels need (Score:2)
by Roy on 03:07 PM May 20th, 2006 EST (#5)
There's a new term among lesbians and even just girls-in-the-know and it's "bois."

As -- I'm a bois.

Pronounced boys.

Women now want to be like adolescent boys.

They are living out a fantasy of liberated promiscuity without consequences.

They are doomed to reduce themselves to the skanks they know that they have become.

Marriage material?

Highly unlikely....

You GO GIRRRLLLZZZZ!


Women (?) (Score:1)
by Baniadam on 04:12 PM May 20th, 2006 EST (#7)
"Women do not find it difficult nowadays to behave like men; but they often find it extremely difficult to behave like gentlemen."
Sir Compton Mackenzie 1883-1972 ‘On Moral Courage’
Re:Women (?) (Score:2)
by Roy on 12:37 AM May 21st, 2006 EST (#9)
"Many a woman has a past, but I am told that she has at least a dozen, and that they all fit."

Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)


Re:Women (?) (Score:1)
by Bert on 05:21 AM May 21st, 2006 EST (#10)
http://www.steen-online.nl/man/
Old German saying;

"Gehst du zum Weibe so vergiss die Peitsche nicht"

Translation;

"When you visit a woman don't forget the whip."

Bert
-------------------- From now on, men's rights first.
Re:Women (?) (Score:1)
by Thundercloud on 10:00 AM May 23rd, 2006 EST (#14)
I don't think that today's women are so much acting like "men", as they are acting in a way that they perceive men to be. They are basically acting out a stereotype, I think. Or a simple male exaggeration. I know few men who act the way female "man-wannabes" act. JMO. (Just my opinion)

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Is there a pattern? (Score:1)
by Davidadelong on 09:21 AM May 21st, 2006 EST (#11)
I find it interesting that in the article it alludes to duplicity of the government in helping create the atmosphere for this behavior to happen. I wonder how many doubting thomas's there are out there that still don't see the connection to social scientists? Girls are facing the same pressures as Boys used to, and are responding with somewhat less control than the Boys did. It seems that being a citizen in "the new world" it is necessary to be a mule whether or not you are Male or Female. The psychological manipulations that have taken place on our populace during my life time is truly frightening. But still the old tool of divide and conquer is alive and well. Men against Women, and Women against Men. By the time they get done messing with us we will all have computer chips implanted in us "for our own safety" and if we don't perform we will have our plastic card taken away and fade away. At least we will no longer suffer under the delusion of actual citizenship and freedom, we will know we are slaves and that our lives will be spent to enrich the one percent. What I find the most depressing is that so many are willing to follow and be led, so as not to draw any unwanted attention upon themselves. I guess real courage is just as illusive as real freedom.....
Re:Is there a pattern? Yes, and It's Funny! (Score:2)
by Roy on 10:11 PM May 21st, 2006 EST (#12)
Davidadelong,

You are obviously an idealist.

And, you're conversant with neo-Marxism.

(Not a "baaad" thang...)

So.

You're depressed that people like to "follow and be led?"

That's really, really FUNNY!

Where can I see your stand-up routine?

Seriously..... ;-)


Re:Is there a pattern? Yes, and It's Funny! (Score:1)
by Davidadelong on 09:37 AM May 22nd, 2006 EST (#13)
I find it interesting that when someone points to the manipulations of our society by government they are immediately labled as an idealist, or even (shudder) a neo-Marxist. I believe if one were to study the tenents of Humanism I might just fit in that catagory as well. Having the courage to try and change the things that actually need changing instead of allowing oneself to be led must therefore be idealism, for to challenge the current paradigm has always been looked upon as fruitless, at least that is what they want us to think. I perhaps wouldn't find the current situation as depressing if I were to allow my ego to get the better of me, and look down upon those that let fear and daily comforts control their thinking.....
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