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by Davidadelong on 05:08 PM February 28th, 2006 EST (#1)
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As I have said, training is most important. Women aren't dumb Folks, not at all. Why should they give up their privelaged status if they don't have to? Specifically if the "system" encourages them to take advantage of it. It would be telling to find out what the majority of their homes were like as Children. I have always had my Women work, why? Because I was willing to share in the house work, and survival is a personal thing. I have never taken on the responsibility of a Woman as a chattel, or looked upon them as less than equal. EQUALITY REQUIRES RESPONSIBILITY! We need to progress as Human Beings if we are to have equality. I have never liked the concept of working myself to death while the "little Woman" stayed home and spent all of the money, and made me a stranger in my own home. Ever feel like we all are being manipulated? That is because we are! "It is a good day to die!"
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 05:45 PM February 28th, 2006 EST (#2)
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These teenage girls are not yet old enough to have been fully indoctrinated into the feminist religion - and most importantly, haven't yet studied Arts degrees and been brain-washed by the academic Left. They are just saying what teenage girls have always said, and probably always will say. That tends to suggest that it might be more than a social strategy. Maybe it's their natural instincts talking.
But they are never going to find sufficient quantities of men successful enough to provide for them, because the feminist movement is busy undermining men, marriage and the family.
These girls need to realise that if they want a happy heterosexual family life, feminism is their enemy.
Clare Raynor is not a bad person, and I admire her in many ways, but she is hopelessly naive at times. "Feminism has never been opposed to marriage and children". Oh really Clare? You obviously haven't read much of it then.
"Those who promise us paradise on earth have never produced anything but hell." Karl Popper
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by Davidadelong on 11:03 AM March 1st, 2006 EST (#9)
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Don't discount training. The information that a teenage girl receives about Men is much more informative than what boys receive about Women. Girls are raised to be led by their Mothers, and so are Boys. Look around, ask questions, there is a pattern. Instinct doesn't play in to certain life choices. Instinct for Women is to get pregnant, what they do after that is training. Instinct for Men is to get a Woman pregnant, after that is training. While I defend the traditional concept of marriage, one Man, one Woman, the roles within that Family is no bodies business but theirs. There are men that marry stronger Women that like to be told what to do, as it is easier than thinking for themselves. There are Women that marry a stronger Man as they also like to be told what to do, as it is easier than thinking for themselves. If we are to ever achieve EQUALITY we need to rethink some of our traditions that were given to us so that we could be controlled easier. Just a thought.........
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 05:49 PM February 28th, 2006 EST (#3)
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'MRA's might label it "predatory gold-digging?" '
Maybe so, but it's important to make the distinction between a sincere, family-orientated wife and a predatory gold-digger.
We mustn't help feminism in its mission to undermine the heterosexual family.
"Those who promise us paradise on earth have never produced anything but hell." Karl Popper
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I agree. The happiest family I have seen, I have watched through 3 stages of their marriage:
1. She stayed at home. He worked.
2. They both worked.
3. He stays home. She works.
Funny thing was that they weren't happy when both were working. I don't think we should discourage people genuinly seeking to be house-spouses.
Besides, gold-diggers don't always want to stay home and be house-wives.
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by frank h on 08:47 PM February 28th, 2006 EST (#6)
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I too, agree.
I don't have a problem whatsoever with the traditional roles of man and woman in the family structure, with certain caveats:
1) When I risk my life every day at my job (even my 50.3 mile one-way commute is dangerous), I expect a level of respect for making that sacrifice;
2) I regard my wife as my equal and I demand that she regard me in the same way.
In most households, this simply isn't happening. Men make money and women take a holiday. Men take risks at work and women take them to court and rape them. Men offer manners and polite upbringing and women demand that is be codified in law.
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 06:21 AM March 1st, 2006 EST (#8)
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Yes, I agree.
"Those who promise us paradise on earth have never produced anything but hell." Karl Popper
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Your female ancestors fought for these opportunities for you, and you want to turn back the clock??? Besides, what is this bullshit saying that you can do whatever the hell you want, when you want, and not realize the responsibility with it??? If you want to have it all and be mothers, grandmothers, aunts, nieces, and daughters, then you need to start being a little nicer to your menfolk [sisters of color, especially] and treat them like they're part of your family. But who am I to tell you what to do? Someday, you'll realize [and respect] the fact that if you want fulfillment in relationships, friendships, and family and everything inbetween...and even life itself, then you need to stop letting those feminists define your womanhood!
Your bed's been made, now go lie in it!
Emmanuel Matteer Jr.
Emma.noelle.blay@hotmail.com
*****MASCULISM IS A BLACK MALE'S BEST FRIEND!!!!!*****
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by Thundercloud on 11:21 AM March 1st, 2006 EST (#10)
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"Your bed's been made now go lie in it!"
That's what I say, too.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Well said, TC
HOKA HEY!
Emmanuel Matteer Jr.
Emma.noelle.blay@hotmail.com
*****MASCULISM IS A BLACK MALE'S BEST FRIEND!!!!!*****
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by al_nbd on 09:02 PM February 28th, 2006 EST (#7)
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"A new survey of teenaged girls..."
Have you noticed the date of this "new survey"?
October 19, 2003.
The things become much worse since then.
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Did anyone notice that the "survey" was done by CosmoGirl? It lends a new meaning to the term "jail bait"...
Also, did anyone else catch this quote: "Feminism was never opposed to marriage or children. On the contrary, feminism was about equal opportunities for women to do what they wanted to do, when they wanted to do it..."
I always thought one of the three main premises of feminism was that marriage was *the* way in which men oppressed women. When did that change?
As far as the second sentence, aka The Barbie Mantra ("Girls Can Do Anything!"), goes, well we know where such blanket permissions lead.
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/* Not All Men Are Fools -- Some Are Martian Bachelors
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Roy writes "A new survey of teenaged girls linked off AngryHarry's web site finds that they want traditional homemaker/mommie futures and hubbies that will work to provide them with that privileged lifestyle: