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It would be nice women being concerned about boys if it weren't for the fact that there is always a big BUT.
And sometimes, the talk of a ''war against boys" can lapse into a victim mentality that rivals the worst excesses of radical feminism. Last month, 17-year-old Doug Anglin, a student at Milton High School, filed a federal civil rights complaint charging that his school discriminates against boys.
Actually that Young moron says "We know boys are being discriminated against but they should the fuck shut up. We womyn know best what's good for boys."
Everytime I read articles like this I have to puke.
Bert
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From now on, men's rights first.
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by Hunchback on 09:06 PM February 6th, 2006 EST (#4)
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Cathy Young, although considered an ally, has always been somewhat suspicious of the men's/fathers' rights movement. Even in her book Cease Fire she likens the men's movement to that of the rad fems.
What can I say, she's usefully pro-male, but never mistake her for a friend of the movement, just an ally. Sorta like the U.S. and Russia in WWII.
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by Boy Genteel on 10:54 AM February 7th, 2006 EST (#6)
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...and I see this piece as consistent with her support of men and boys. I'm glad she cited the offensive shirts and buttons that girls often wear (which wouldn't be tolerated were they boys' shirts about girls), and I'm glad that there wasn't just a lone "solution" of treating boys and girls as two separate species. I think we're all different because each person is unique, not because of gender. And some of those who think boys would benefit from boys-only schools also think that boys' schools should be run like boot camp. Ugh.
bg
Men are from EARTH. Women are from EARTH. Deal with it.
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by NoQuarterGiven on 11:52 AM February 7th, 2006 EST (#7)
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From what I can tell, Cathy Young is suspicious of the men's movement because if we could organize and lobby with similar strength as women's representative cohesion, we just might be able to be heard. It is true that the men's movement makes noise similar in timbre to the feminist movement, but history has shown that shouting loud and casting hateful dispersions like a scatter-gun works. Feminism would never have gained the enormous ground that they have if they played nice.
In my opinion, in order to win a war, one must fight on the same terms as one's enemy. Ms. Young's suspicions stem from either an attitude that because she is a woman her voice carries more merit than ours, or that there is no gender war going on. I find neither of these to be reflective of the cold reality of life.
I personally don't disaprove of a gender apartheid. Equal but separate is likely the only way we will ever achieve equity. Nor am I especially heartbroken about this schism. I can live well without the ministrations of women, and be quite happy while doing it.
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by Davidadelong on 04:08 PM February 6th, 2006 EST (#2)
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If it is, who will be the underdog next? It will take years, perhaps 50, to correct the current situation if we take the tried and true method of allowing the "social scientists" to pull our strings, and then they have already achieved that which they set out to do. Don't get me wrong, I am pleased to see "some" truth being printed in the media. But I still fear the next showing of the dog and pony show that they have in store for us next..........
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by Hunchback on 09:15 PM February 6th, 2006 EST (#5)
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After reading Young's article, I clicked on the link to "The Lost Girls" article, printed the day before. Incredibly, this harpy is bemoaning the idea that the recent awareness of boys has somehow snared some of the spotlight from our poor, unappreciated little princesses:
But, according to the Girls Coalition survey, ''over the last five years, public and private interest in and funding for girl-specific programming has generally diminished."
In Greater Boston, 92 percent of foundation dollars go to coed programs; 6 percent go to programs for women and girls; and 2 percent go to programs for men and boys. Funding for women and girls peaked in 2000 and is on the decline.
Can you believe this? Females still get THREE TIMES the foundation money spent on males, and she's crying the blues about the diminishing girl-specific programs!
I see, she's longing for the good ol' days when they spent TWENTY TIMES more on girls than boys. Jeez!
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