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Marriage Broker Act Sneaks Into VAWA 2005
posted by Matt on 01:49 PM December 20th, 2005
Inequality Lee writes "Maria Cantwell (WA) has succeeded and inserted the 2003 language for International Marriage Broker Regulation of 2005 into Appendix D of VAWA 2005, which passed this weekend. This language would require all who seek to meet or communicate with a foreign love interest online to first pass an invasive and extensive background check. The foreign national client would also get the scoop on how the U.S. Domestic Violence and Divorce Industries work. See thread on standyourground.com for a discussion."

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No foreign brides for you, buster! (Score:1)
by Thundercloud on 02:50 PM December 20th, 2005 EST (#1)
Sounds to me like they're aware of the high numbers of men who are now marrying women from outside the country (U.S.)and they want to put a stop to it so that American men will have ONLY American women to choose from for marriage.

Well, I bet next their going to make a law that men can't LEAVE THE COUNTRY to marry foreign women, as well.
I'm not joking. It COULD very well happen, the way our rights as American men are eroded away...

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:No foreign brides for you, buster! (Score:1)
by khankrumthebulgar on 04:57 PM December 20th, 2005 EST (#2)
This is an attempt to regulate Supply and Demand. It will inevitably fail. The reality is Men will do what is our best interest. The FemNags can kiss my sweaty hairy White butt. Men will either leave and go exPat meaning the smarter, more productive males will vote with their feet and leave. More Women who will be alone with their Cats.
Re:No foreign brides for you, buster! (Score:1)
by Baniadam on 06:50 PM December 20th, 2005 EST (#3)
You think(?)

Most will only leave after they crashed head on with the system, and then realise this really sucks. By then you would be slightly scarred and maybe even financially screwed.


Re:No foreign brides for you, buster! (Score:1)
by Davidadelong on 07:41 PM December 20th, 2005 EST (#4)
My only question is where the hell would one go? From what I read and hear this system of divide and conquer has spread around the globe, and where it hasn't our own countries provacatuers are making sure it does. So, I guess it is time to crash headlong into the system, and take the scars, but make damn sure you aren't the only one that gets scarred! Besides, I have met Men that have married mail order brides, most of them can't wait until they get to this country so that they too can have children, get divorced, and live the American female dream of power over Men, and very little personal responsibility.
Or... (Score:2)
by Dittohd on 06:40 PM December 21st, 2005 EST (#5)

I suspect that if these internet matchmaking sites can't find a loophole to squeeze through, they will move their operations offshore to avoid having to put up with this crap.

I find it hard to believe that there are many men who will submit to these probing, invasive, personal questions just to get the contact information for overseas women, much less say it's OK to give this information to every woman who he wishes to get to know but hasn't yet even met. But then again, there are a lot of stupid men in this country.

Seems to me that all this personal information sets us men up for blackmail by unscrupulous individuals at the other end.

Dittohd


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Ha! Ha! (Score:2)
by Dittohd on 10:16 PM December 21st, 2005 EST (#6)

I just checked three of my favorite foreign woman websites that I like to browse. There are some others but I only checked my three current favorites.

One has its headquarters in Thailand and the two others are by the same company - in Australia.

Ha! ha!

They may put a few U.S. matchmaking websites out of business (if they aren't doing enough business to make it worthwhile to move offshore) but they won't stop more and more men from seeking and finding overseas women. There will always be companies to supply them. After all, how long has the government been trying to stamp out prostitution.

Damn stupid feminist bitches!

Dittohd


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Whoops! (Score:2)
by Dittohd on 10:41 PM December 21st, 2005 EST (#7)

I found a relatively big one in Arizona.

I sent them an e-mail with a link to the Stand Your Ground page that has a copy of the act on it. I asked them what they plan to do, although I suspect I probably won't get an answer.

Ha! ha! If I get an answer, I'll let you guys know what they said.

Dittohd


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Re:Whoops! (Score:1)
by khankrumthebulgar on 07:26 AM December 30th, 2005 EST (#11)
The Reality is that on Dontmarry.com FemNags are always posting there about the Marriage strike and shaming Men for not caving into the Misandry. We who post there laugh at them. They are in a panic.
Men have wised up and the Marriage Strike is growing as Women are acting like Whores,living like sluts and are not Marriage material. They are whining cause Men are bailing on WW/AW and going Foreign. Why not?

We can outsource. If WW were reasonable and the legal system did not reward Women for cashing out we would not be going off shore. Too bad for AW they will have their Cats and Butch The Biker to keep them company. Butch may have to fit them into his busy schedule of satisfying younger Skanks.
Re:No foreign brides for you, buster! (Score:1)
by Alitax on 11:59 PM December 21st, 2005 EST (#8)
There's something obviously perverse about mail-order brides.

What to think of the women, who are clearly looking for a way out--either to escape a lousy country, a lousy job, or just escapism in general? They're clearly not marrying for love.

What to think of the men, who apparently can't deal with the postmodern idea that first-world women don't need to marry, are capable of total independence (emphasis on 'capable'), so instead they go overseas to pick out a dependent, hopefully subserviant type? Bravo, also marrying for curious reasons.

People shouldn't marry for the sake of it, obviously. Mail-order brides shouldn't be using the system like refugees, and the men ordering them shouldn't be allowed to draw them into a state of virtual slavery.

American men should have the right to import foreign women? How do you figure?
Mail-Order Brides? (Score:2)
by Dittohd on 04:09 PM December 22nd, 2005 EST (#9)

Apparently you've been brainwashed against foreign women. I've been married to one whom I met in Japan and have been married to for almost 33 years. Let's compare that with American to American marriages. Let's even compare averages of American men to American women marriages with American men to foreign women marriages. I'll bet the American/foreign marriages last so much longer and have far fewer divorces to the point that it isn't even close.

Why do you consider foreign women who meet their men on the internet differently from American women who meet their men on the internet? I've got some e-mail addresses on Yahoo.com and I've seen foreign women with e-mail addresses on Yahoo.com. It's not like they are all being chosen out of total poverty and they're only coming here to "escape".

American men can't "order" women from overseas just like we would order something out of a catalog (unless we're talking about the underground slave trade, which is of course, illegal). We still have to correspond with foreign women, talk to them on the phone, get to know them, get them to like us, and go over there and date them. They obviously have the option to say yes or no at any time, just like American women do. Just like we do. The big difference is that they are much more friendly towards men (they haven't been taught to hate or be afraid of men since they've been born) and they treat us with a lot more respect than you'll get in most cases from an American woman. And by the way, there are many who have really bad attitudes who I wouldn't go near with a 10-foot pole, but certainly a lot fewer percentage-wise than here in the states. So why wouldn't any man with half a brain go where the percentages of sweet, feminine women are so much greater? You have to pick and choose just like here in the states, but the overseas good ones outshine the American good ones hand over fist.

This "subserviant" label for foreign women is just a pejorative term put on them by American women and their sympathizers in and out of the media and Hollywood to shame men into not seeking them out. Do you consider yourself subserviant to your wife every time you fix something for her around the house? If not, why not? Why don't you just tell her to do it herself?

I do things for my wife and she does things for me. And sometimes we do things we don't really feel like doing at the time. Does that make us both subserviant? And by the way, what's wrong with a woman being a little subserviant to her man if she chooses to be? Many women prefer to be subserviant to their man by nature, as much as the feminazi's hate to admit it. Is that automatically bad in your opinion? Are you insinuating that American women are never subserviant to their men?

>They're clearly not marrying for love.

How could you possibly know this? Are you insinuating that all foreign women are the same? Do you think that all American women are the same? Aside from women who are housekeepers or don't have jobs, I've seen other ads from foreign women who are accountants, sales women, engineers, nanny's, etc. I even saw an attractive Chinese woman in her 40's recently who is a medical doctor. Do you really think that the U.S. is automatically more attractive to the rest of the world? I saw a TV show one time where it showed a black girl who was moved out of the projects and then moved back because that was where she was brought up and was used to. Most people prefer to stay where they were born and brought up. The ones who are willing to move to another country to find their ideal husband have more strength of character than most other women, including American women. How many American women would do that? How many American women not only restrict their universe of men to a small number of miles from her home, but also to specific income levels of the men answering their ad? I even see American women in their 50's and 60's putting high income level stipulations in their ads. Don't believe me? Check out Yahoo! personals. Are they looking for love? A sugardaddy? You almost never see that of foreign women. But you do for a majority of American women.

There are a lot of men who are only attracted to foreign women (I am one of those) and apparently, there are a lot of foreign women who are attracted to and prefer foreign men for a variety of reasons. In many instances, they see many divorces by couples in their own country (including their own in many cases) and know of girlfriends who've married foreigners and are very happy. So they are looking for that same happiness. It's not escapism, it's seeking happiness in the best way they know how, just like everyone else in this world. Except they are more adventuresome and brave and strong in their search of their ideal husband.

I think it's very callous of you to disparage these women as a whole the way you do based completely on heresay.

Dittohd

P.S. Whoops! Did I go a little long on that one?


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By the way... (Score:2)
by Dittohd on 08:32 PM December 22nd, 2005 EST (#10)

While they're not in the majority, I've seen a few that stated that they were looking for a man who wanted to move to and stay in their country because they didn't want to relocate.

I've also seen some who wanted to do the half and half deal, traveling periodically between both countries.

There are all kinds. The best part is that a large number of them seek men who are much older than American women are brought up to seek, many starting their age request for her man 5 - 10 years older than themselves. Here in the good ol' U.S. of A., we men who prefer younger women are immediately labeled "dirty old men". And no, I'm not talking about underage girls!

Who needs that crap!

Dittohd


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Cantwell's motivation (Score:1)
by Earwig on 03:32 PM December 30th, 2005 EST (#12)
a couple of guys who imported brides (these women here want to be treated like human being huff huff huff) and then murdered them.

No offense, I mean, your points are well taken, but you gotta admit some of those importing women are basically misogynistic and can only get a woman by waving a Green Card at her. The American can decide if the guy backhands her to walk out - the Indian/Chinese/Russian etc. cannot.

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