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by johnnyp on 10:58 PM October 6th, 2005 EST (#1)
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If I were in a situation where not at fault and a bitch was trying to bleed me via the courts - I would go to Mexico, or the Philippines with the money I have hidden.
You can live pretty well on $12k per year and find a nice girl who thinks you are an angel, and not a demon.
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by Tirryb on 12:59 AM October 7th, 2005 EST (#2)
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"If I were in a situation where not at fault and a bitch was trying to bleed me via the courts - I would go to Mexico, or the Philippines with the money I have hidden."
I don't think even Mexico is going to be an option for long. I was reading an article in the newspapers here in Australia that said something along the lines of 96% of money owed by a absent parents (read 'fathers') was now being actively chased/collected within the country - but that the agencies were now "very actively" interested in chasing overseas non-payers.
Just how long do we think it's going to be before all countries begin to join hands on this? Not that long I reckon. And then it won't matter where you go, unless you're an illegal immigrant you're going to get caught and they're gonna make you pay.
I've thought about it, and I haven't even entered the divorce yet - my solicitors already told me I'm up for a royal screwing at the hands of the court. I'd love to think overseas would be safe, but I don't think it will be for long...
Gary
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by Anonymous User on 08:29 AM October 7th, 2005 EST (#3)
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The problem is that you need to know what you prognosis really is to make a decision. You need statistics on what divorces/settlements look like in your state for your situation, and have a really good idea of how low your ex will sink. With the courts encouraging her, she can sink pretty low. If I knew now (several years into a divorce, where she keeps at me every year with some new suit, and where I pay through the nose), I might have just left the country when I separated. Filed a divorce 'over there'. Likely if you renounce your citizenship, and take on foreign citizenship you would gain some immunity from US law. Of course, if she sued you, you might not be able to come back, but you wouldn't be a slave, and avoiding a country that wants to enslave you sounds like a very good idea to me. And you would have to watch the law in your new country to be sure that they didn't change the rules to make you fair game. But I think that it will be a LONG time before most countries 'join hands'. Honoring a conviction of a capital crime from another country is one thing, but honoring a trial-less presumption of guilt because you are a man is another.
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by johnnyp on 10:10 AM October 7th, 2005 EST (#5)
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Maybe so - but the one HUGE thing in my favor is the general incompetence of most governments. You assume they could find a man if they wanted to.
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by Anonymous User on 12:17 AM October 8th, 2005 EST (#6)
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>And then it won't matter where you go, unless you're an illegal immigrant you're going to get caught and they're gonna make you pay.
>I'd love to think overseas would be safe, but I don't think it will be for long...
You have to plan ahead, do your homework. Getting a new identity is also one of the solutions, but what you decide to do depends on how far you're willing to go to avoid getting screwed.
I have two books in my home library, "How to be Invisible" by J.J. Luna and "Hide Your Assets and Disappear" by Edmund J. Pankau, both of which could be helpful. They're copyrighted 2000 and 1999, though, so they're a bit dated. There are always up-to-date books on the subject.
Loompanics, Inc. is a publisher that always has books on this subject.
There are ways to royally screw your ex before she does it to you, but you'd have to use your imagination on that one. What you can do is only limited by how cold your ex has been toward you and how underhanded you're willing to get to fix the problem. Most men are too soft to do it up right, especially to a woman. We've all been brainwashed to "take it like a man."
The key is preemption. Do your homework beforehand. And whatever you do, don't discuss your plans with anyone. After the divorce paperwork is filed by one or the other spouse, your options are severely limited.
Didn't we have an article fairly recently on this website about men overseas who were helping other men here set up identities and get established overseas to permanently avoid unreasonable alimony and child support?
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by Baniadam on 09:00 AM October 7th, 2005 EST (#4)
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I think M is a fool for this. He needs to leave the country start a new life and get married to a good devout old-fashioned women and have kids and see them grow up. Make sure he has a pre-nuptial agreement. If he remains like he is in the end he will grow old and have nothing, except fund & nurture a punch of new (male & female) feminists who label him as a loser. If he still sees his kids (I assume he has kids); then that is the only reason for staying. Still I say leave and try to keep in contact from abroad and still provide reasonable amount of money to remove some of the inevitable guilt.
Note if he is a Christian then one of his duties is to get married and bring up strong righteous Christians.
I feel sorry for him; I really do. It just makes me angry to read such blog; it reminds me of the living dead.
So S is not for Success but for Sucker.
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