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by Anonymous User on 02:50 PM October 4th, 2005 EST (#1)
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No matter what age they are females tend to get by with this sort of behaviour more and more as time goes on.
I even doubt she would have served any jail time if the boy had actually died.
It just goes to show that the tolerance for female on male violence isn't just in the media.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by robrob on 03:16 PM October 4th, 2005 EST (#2)
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It's an old test, but still worth it I feel. Had a 12 year old boy done the same thing to a 5 yr old girl, we'd be reading about the youngest person on the sex offenders register right now.
The UK telegraph reports:
"In one of several confused accounts about what had happened, the boy claimed that he had been strung up, beaten with sticks and nettles and had a rope wrapped around his neck, stomach and genitals."
Why not the automatic presumption of sexual assault too? Can a 5 year old even make that up?
The double standards are sickening.
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by jenk on 07:11 PM October 4th, 2005 EST (#3)
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Ohh, this just burns me right up. We had a case locally where a boy in his very early teens killed a little 4 year old (the Derrick Robie case). There were cries for blood, and to have Eric Smith tried as an adult. He ended up sentanced 9 years to life, the maximum juvinile sentance, and people were outraged at how little time he got.
WHile she did not succeed in killing this boy, it was not for lack of trying. That there is no media storm calling for punishment is telling. Typical. Even when the victim is only 5, there is no justice since women cannot be perpetrators. She is a victim, even when she is victimizing someone else.
Grrr.
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by Anonymous User on 12:09 PM October 5th, 2005 EST (#6)
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Hopefully someone will kill this girl.
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by Anonymous User on 01:42 PM October 5th, 2005 EST (#9)
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You complain about the boy having an attempt on his life whilst being tortured but when someone suggests that the female should recieve the brunt of a just revenge (or punishment) you reject that. All talk... no, not even talk because this forum is all about talk and you reject even that.
You are similar to the men in a classroom that will shake their heads while murmering 'no' when another man asks for support in his stand against feminism.
This is the world you have made because you reject violence against women and the opression of women through recindation of their rights.
This is not a men's world, this is a equal world: it is the world you want, so enjoy.
Women's rights must be destroyed, and for some reason you are pro-women's rights. You are the kind that got us here in hand with the women, now you complain.
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by Anonymous User on 02:08 PM October 5th, 2005 EST (#10)
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Women's rights must be destroyed, and for some reason you are pro-women's rights. You are the kind that got us here in hand with the women, now you complain.
Maybe we should consider casting ourselves not as mens' rights activists but as womens' responsibility activists. The goals and results will be almost identical.
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by jenk on 03:07 PM October 5th, 2005 EST (#12)
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You are being a moron. Saying that this girl does not deserve to die has nothing to do with women's rights. It has to do with common sense.
She needs punishment and counceling. Hopefully with both, she could become a normal functioning adult. That is what I would hope would happen to ANY child of 13 who committed a crime like this.
There is a HUGE middle ground between killing her and letting her off scott free.
Try looking at the reality.
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by Anonymous User on 04:16 PM October 5th, 2005 EST (#14)
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You are being a moron. Saying that this girl does not deserve to die has nothing to do with women's rights. It has to do with common sense.
As the boy lived, she would not be eligable for the death penalty in the US. I am aware that the UK has not had the death penalty since the 1970's. It is interesting to note that they did not do away with hanging without doing away with capital punishment first.
With regard to your comment:
Do you think for one moment that, had the gender roles been reversed, a male would get off as easy?
She needs punishment and counceling
I'll bite, what punishment is appropriate for trying to murder a five-year old? I think life with a snowball's chance in hell of parole is quite appropriate. How about you? A 13-year old, who the feminists claim to be mature enough to decide on sex, abortion and raising a child, is knowledgable enough to know that killing without a reason is wrong. In that sense, this is about women's responsibilities.
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by Boy Genteel on 12:41 PM October 6th, 2005 EST (#18)
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"Women's rights must be destroyed, and for some reason you are pro-women's rights."
We're pro-men's rights AND pro-women's rights. The people we oppose are only for the latter and not the former. They (like you) believe that the two causes are antonymous, when in fact the two should co-exist peacefully.
bg
Men are from EARTH. Women are from EARTH. Deal with it.
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by Anonymous User on 01:18 PM October 7th, 2005 EST (#19)
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>"We're pro-men's rights AND pro-women's rights."
Exactly.
Why is that so hard for some people to understand?
As for "Killing the girl", No, don't think so. She should be punished in the same way that any 13 year old boy would be, no more, no less. THAT would be equality.
The feminists p!$$ me off too, but I certainly don't advocate hurting, let alone killing them, or women in general.
So stop acting weird and being a troll.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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"She tried to hide away from the complainant but to no avail.
"She decided to pick up a length of wire in the wooded area and tie him to a tree."
[sarcasm]She did what feminazis taught her to do in such a case, teaching that nasty SOB a lession he will never forget[/sarcasm].
Bert
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From now on, men's rights first.
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by Anonymous User on 08:40 AM October 5th, 2005 EST (#5)
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Boys father has been on UK news channels all day branding this decision as "disgusting".
There is a general feeling of amazement that she escaped a custodial sentence.
When I read about 5 year old boys being banned from school in the USA for touching a girl or shouting at a girl, it's even more evident how ingrained it is that females should not be subject to the same punishment as boys.
Rob
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by Anonymous User on 01:00 PM October 5th, 2005 EST (#8)
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Well, at least this takes away some of the attention from the evil monkey that lives in my closet.
*Evil monkey points menacingly*
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by Anonymous User on 03:01 PM October 5th, 2005 EST (#11)
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...Huh...?
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by Anonymous User on 03:50 PM October 5th, 2005 EST (#13)
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I was wondering 'what the hell', myself.
Jinx
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by Anonymous User on 06:41 PM October 5th, 2005 EST (#15)
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The tone of the article makes the girl out to be the victim. How pathetic was that coverage of the incident?!?!
Jeff / This is not Equality
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by Anonymous User on 07:03 PM October 5th, 2005 EST (#16)
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It's interesting to maybe connect the dots between Lynndie England's defense of her actions at Abu Ghraib --- "I was in love and in fear of the man I was in love with..." if I didn't take those smiling torture pictures...
And the spin on this 12 year-old female Lynndie-in-training, who's defense is basically that she was provoked into trying to hang a 5 year-old boy because he "pursued" her into the woods.
I guess it's never too early to learn the feminist victimology creed, which protects females of all ages from ever being responsible for their individual choices.
The feminists had to invent the myth of the Evil Patriarchy because without it, women would have to behave like actual adults, with rights AND responsibilities.
Because that would be inconvenient for women, our chivalrous Congress (about to unanimously pass VAWA 2005) will never let it happen.
(roy)
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by Anonymous User on 12:14 PM October 6th, 2005 EST (#17)
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[an error occurred while processing this directive]
Rob writes "You'll remember an article here a while back about a 12yr old girl who hung a 5yr old boy from a tree. The boy nearly died. Before being caught, she blamed 3 other boys who were all taken from their homes and interrogated at a police station.
Anyway, she effectively escapes punishment. Read it