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by Anonymous User on 11:03 PM August 11th, 2005 EST (#1)
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Two things.
1. This 1 in 25 figure is not just from Britain. They collected data from different countries - as diverse as Mexico and South Africa. So this seems to be a worldwide trend.
2. The devastating impact on men's lives is not even mentioned! So 1 in 25 men may be supporting a child which is not theirs - for 18 years!
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by Malcolm on 02:40 AM August 12th, 2005 EST (#2)
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One report did however warn that the discovery of the betrayal might lead to domestic violence against the partner!
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by Uberganger on 07:44 AM August 12th, 2005 EST (#3)
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Notice how they call it 'paternal discrepancy' and not 'paternity fraud', which is what it actually is. Their choice of language diminishes what it is. See also how they quote a figure of 4%, whereas the largest figure they found is 30%. If this had been a 'women's issue', headlines the world over would have screamed 'One in three women...', and you'd only have got a more balanced picture (if at all) by reading the article.
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by Anonymous User on 11:20 AM August 12th, 2005 EST (#4)
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Uberganger, that is exactly what I was thinking. I see you did the math.
Also, if this were a Marxist-Feminist report then they would have claimed underreporting and inflated the 4% to more like 15% (at least).
Warble
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by A.J. on 11:23 AM August 12th, 2005 EST (#5)
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One report did however warn that the discovery of the betrayal might lead to domestic violence against the partner!
This is just an example of the principle of chivalry as it applies in western society.
When faced with indisputable evidence of a woman’s wrongdoing, all that’s necessary is to utter the “V” word. The simple mention of violence toward women, whether it has anything to do with the discussion or not, effectively eliminates all logic, reason, and objectivity from the discussion.
It’s such a convenient slight of hand! Just say the magic word and accountability disappears.
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by Anonymous User on 12:33 PM August 13th, 2005 EST (#6)
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A story about paternity fraud emphasizes the importance of counseling men? What, like counseling them to accept their second-class status as males? After all, some men might even be so upset me that they start protesting their legal liability for their wives paternatiy fraud. Wouldn't that be terrible?
We might as well return to our regularly scheduled mass frenzy about "grave threats" to women's reproductive rights.
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by Anonymous User on 04:24 PM August 13th, 2005 EST (#7)
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1 in 25 is pretty rare... That's what, 4%?
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by Mark C on 06:13 PM August 13th, 2005 EST (#8)
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1 in 25 is pretty rare... That's what, 4%?
Wasn't that the percentage of Catholic Priests that were accused in the pedophilia scandals? That betrayal of trust, even though only by a relatively small portion of the Priesthood, was quite rightly seen as a very major issue for the Catholic faithful.
We're talking about four men out of every hundred (and at least that many children, if not more) that are being lied to by their wives/mothers on an issue of absolutely fundamental importance. I think that represents a pretty big problem.
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by Anonymous User on 08:54 PM August 13th, 2005 EST (#9)
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3 billion men on this planet.
1 in 25 of them, that's 120 million potential fathers that could end up raising someone else's children.
So you're right, not a real problem, just a possibility of 120 million humans affected.
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by Anonymous User on 06:21 AM August 15th, 2005 EST (#10)
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Please, let's get our facts straight. 10% is the accepted rate of misattributed paternity worldwide, and 10% is the number taught in medical schools. Go to this URL and bookmark it. It has dozens of research articles
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