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How Can We Coach Little Girls Into Women...
posted by Matt on 10:34 PM June 8th, 2005
Feature Submission Ray Blumhorst writes "HOW CAN WE COACH LITTLE GIRLS INTO WOMEN WHO AREN’T MALE VILIFYING ABUSERS?

I was walking through the park today on my way to pick up my car from the mechanic. It’s about a mile, and the mechanic is in a rather “industrial” part of town so I dressed in blue jeans and a denim shirt so I would be less likely to get mugged. I walked by the new gymnasium the City of Los Angeles is building and noticed that somebody had torched the place, since the last time I was in the park about a week ago. As I got to the jogging track I noticed hundreds of elementary school kids playing soccer on the big field, while their parents looked on. One Mom gave me a rather disapproving glance as I walked by. I guess I wasn’t properly attired to be walking on the jogging track in her book, or maybe she’s just learned from the gender feminist influence in our society to look at all men as potential rapists and child molesters."

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"I walked on and saw three Dads leaning against a tree watching over their kids, and a second later I just busted out laughing. No, the Dads or kids hadn’t done anything funny. I was just thinking about that Family Violence Prevention Fund’s mentoring program where men are encouraged to Coach Boys into Men. It sounds like a really good program initially, until we see that women are doing nothing to coach little girls in women who don’t batter men.

Here are a few select quotes from the http://endabuse.org/cbim/ web site:

“Boys need your advice on how to behave toward girls. Boys are watching how you and other men relate to women to figure out their own stance towards girls. So teach boys early, and teach them often, that there is no place for violence in a relationship.”

“A kid will never approach you and ask for guidance on how to treat women. But that doesn’t mean he doesn’t need it.”

“Hear what he has to say. Listen to how he and his friends talk about girls. Ask him if he’s ever seen abusive behavior in his friends.”

“Let him know how you define a healthy relationship and always treat women and girls in a way that your son can admire.”

“Show him how important the issue of violence against women and children is to you.”

The thought that had run through my head that caused me to erupt in spontaneous hilarity was, “How can we coach little girls into women who aren‘t male vilifying, gender feminist abusers?” “Now that,“ I said to myself, “is a real $64,000.00 question.“

Yes, there certainly is a need for that, but unfortunately there aren’t any Men’s Studies programs on college campuses to alert people to the need to fix that and other perceived problems with females, and there are almost no Men’s Commissions (1) to lobby for money to help men who have been hurt by misandrist, gender feminist movements plaguing our society, and there aren’t any taxpayer subsidized programs run by males to encourage women to mentor little girls into women who don’t vilify, abuse, batter, exploit, or defraud males.

A couple of blocks later I walked by an elementary school, and was tempted to look at the little kids playing in the school yard, but kept my eyes looking straight ahead. After-all, I wouldn’t want to be mistaken for a potential child molester. Sadly, I recalled a time in my life when a man could enjoy watching little kids play without that worry; a time before gender feminism had so poisoned society to look at all men as “criminals waiting to happen.”

Yes, we certainly need to raise the next generation of girls not to be gender feminists. Perhaps, after we get the Violence Against Men Act passed, and get mentoring programs started for girls, we can even have some bumper stickers made up that say, “There’s No Excuse for Vilifying Males.” It’s gong to be quite a challenge to get girls to consider other opinions besides the gender feminist viewpoint once they get into college and start getting indoctrinated in tax-payer funded women’s studies classes. It’s just so much easier for those "females" to state their opinions as fact without having truth interfere with perceptions, and it’s just so much easier to get together with a group of other "females" and present the consensus of the group as a scholarly researched study, than it is to do the real research and fact finding.

Women need to help "girls" do the hard work of scholarly research, and fact finding if we are ever going to put an end to the abusive way gender feminists treat males. If girls and boys, and men and women are ever to have equitable relations in our society, certainly gender feminists must begin to be honest about all forms of violence and the role(s) that females as well as males play in it. As a man, who was once put on crutches by the out of control raging violence of an abusive woman, I’m asking, “What can women do to stop female violence and abuse of males?” God help us if we do not break the cycle of gender feminist Ms-information that is fueling the epidemic of abuse all males are facing today.

(1) There is one Men’s Commission currently operating in New Hampshire."

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Feminist Tax (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 11:10 PM June 8th, 2005 EST (#1)
Why don't we put a tax on feminists and use the proceeds to fund the kind of education called for in the article. The Federal Tax form would ask the filer "Are you a feminist", and if the filer answered Yes, the form would say "enter the amount from page xx", and that amount would be added, and at the end would be the usual part where they sign under penalty of perjury, etc..etc.

Whether they signed Yes OR No, they'd hate it! Women's studies profs and NOW members would REALLY hate it -- it would put them on the spot, all right! ;-)

-Fidelbogen-
True Sisterhood -- Women Don't Like Other Women (Score:2)
by Roy on 01:15 PM June 9th, 2005 EST (#2)
Ray wrote -- "Women need to help 'girls' do the hard work of scholarly research, and fact finding if we are ever going to put an end to the abusive way gender feminists treat males."

The problem is, a girl’s worst enemy is not a boy, or an ideology, --- it’s another girl.

Girls learn to be sophisticated perpetrators of indirect aggression at a very early age. They use shunning, rumor-mongering, reputation destruction via lies, their sexuality, and getting others to do their dirty work... to emotionally and psychologically assault other girls. (See Rachel Simmon’s excellent – Odd Girl Out: The Hidden Culture of Aggression in Girls.)

Also,national statistics on school violence clearly illustrate that girl-on-girl physical assaults have increased explosively (pun intended), and school officials are trying to deal with it but are largely clueless because they’re still locked into the "sugar ‘n spice" chivalrous myths. (They need to read some ancient Greek mythology –- the worst of the worst soul-eating demons were all females!)

From an unlikely source, Hugo Schwyzer has posted on his pro-feminist blog a scathing critique of the sisterhood’s interpersonal war against itself.

A journal entry from a female college student in one of his classes reads –

"I know you probably hear this often. Most of my good friends are guys. I really really want more girlfriends, you know? But I feel so judged by them, and so competitive with them. Every relationship I have had with a girl in high school or now in college has been so dramatic. Guys are just easier, the things that girls get upset about, they don't. But my male friends just don't understand so many things, not to mention the problem of sexual tension always rearing its head and all that. I just want a group of girls to be close to. I see it in the media all the time, but I don't have it."

Link at -- http://hugoboy.typepad.com/
Under the 6.8.05 header – "All My Best Friends Are Boys"

So my point ….

Girls hate other girls, by and large. Women distrust other women, mostly.

On an interpersonal relationship level, the sisterhood is not about solidarity at all, though the lesbian elites at N.O.W. would like you to believe that line of propaganda.

Real girls and women see each other as competitors, as enemies, not allies.

Feminism has thrown kerosene on this female pathological syndrome that was present long before terms like the "Evil Patriarchy" came into vogue.

It’s time for MRA’s to thoroughly understand this fatal flaw in feminism and to exploit it ruthlessly.


"It's a terrible thing ... to be living in fear."
Re:True Sisterhood -- Women Don't Like Other Women (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:56 AM June 10th, 2005 EST (#5)
Wow,
there's a lot of insight in what you've written here.

In many ways the strategies that feminism takes against men, are similar to the types of agression that (as you said) they learn in childhood.

Perhapse that was obvious, but I never really thought of it that way.

I also found your quote interesting; especially that the girl wanted to have more close female friends like she sees in the media but it just doesn't ever seem to happen. I've seen this a lot in the women I've known, for sure...
All prejiduce is the same. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 01:41 PM June 9th, 2005 EST (#3)
I know how Ray felt when that woman looked at him the way she did.
Alot of women look at men in general the way I have heared some black men have described how some whites look at them.
  "They see a black man comein' and they automaticaly assume I'm a theif, a drug dealer, a rapist..."

Even I, as an Indian, have to deal with similar treatment. People (of all ethnicities) see me comeing and assume I'm a savage, that I smoke pot in my "peace pipe", that I hate white people, that I'm REALLY REALLY spiritual, that I don't speak English well (or at all), that I might mug them, (or scalp them) That I'm dirt poor, un-employed and will ask for a hand-out, that I'm an alchoholic, that I commune reagularly with my "manitou", etc.

And so it is now the same with prejiduced women when they see a man comeing.
He's a rapist, a pedophile, a theif, an abuser, a misogynist, a mugger, etc, etc.

Like I keep saying, all prejiduce works in the same pattern. It may be for different reasons, but the same pattern.
It's just that now-a-days men are the new "Niggers", "Injuns" and "Jews". Our society, our media, our courts and our government reflect this loud and clear.

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:All prejiduce is the same.... but different.... (Score:2)
by Roy on 08:29 PM June 9th, 2005 EST (#4)
T-Cloud,

You have accepted a heavy load and carried it with honor.

As an "Injun" writer with a keyboard and an articulate voice, your posts continually draw this crowd back to the important fundamentals.

Indeed all prejudice starts with the same idea --

that of "The Other." The "Ones Not Like Me."

Native Americans were once what? Four hundred proud tribes and nations?

Some distrusted one another, some made allies, some went to war, and invented scalping before any white man was ever seen, yes?

So, your point is all the more critical.

Prejudice is our enemy. Every woman, man, child.

It's a "civilized" term for hatred.

Hate delivered indirectly, today. Via laws, mass media, and government policies.

When was the last time you saw anyone, "Injun" or Vanilla, on TV who spoke in your voice?

The worst kind of prejudice is to "disappear the other..."

Am I making false connections between your perspective and mine?

And BTW, you might wish to read the new VAWA 2005 bill, because the feminists have discovered the BIA reservations as their new cause....

 
"It's a terrible thing ... to be living in fear."
Re:All prejiduce is the same.... but different.... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 12:43 PM June 10th, 2005 EST (#6)
Roy.
Yes I've been informed about the possibility of the feminists and the B.I.A. being *ahem* in bed together.
This was no suprise when I heared about it. Both the feminists and the B.I.A. (Bereau of Indian affairs) (SP?) are both about repression, suppression and oppression of a group of people.
In the feminist's case it is men, In the B.I.A.'s case it is Indians. Put them all together and it spells genocide of American Indian males. We already have the highest suicide rates of ANY ethnic group on the PLANET. You can just guess what will happen when the B.I.A. and the fembots come after us together.
It is a long beleived myth that Indian men oppressed women, but I am CERTAIN that the feminists will use that myth and many other racist myths about Indian males to pass laws, legislation and "rules" that affect Indian males and males only.
This is why I so often say that feminism is DEADLY to men of my ethnicity. It will only be a matter of time before other minority men are likewise targeted.
The feminists, by and large, are just as racist as they are sexist. The hard part is getting anyone to listen to guys like me when we warn of such things. I am frankly AMAZED that MORE minority men do not or can not see the deadly storm before us.
This is why I try so HARD to unify "white men" and "men of color". In the end we will ALL be suffering the same fate.

What was it that Benjamin Franklin once said?; "If we do not stand together, we will hang seperatly."
I think we're already seeing that happen, because there are just too many chivalrist and/or wussie-poopie males (of all ethnicities)who aid and abed feminists and the feminist agenda.
The Lakota have a word for people like that; "Heyoka"! That means they are completely out of their minds. You'd HAVE to be crazy to want to destroy yourself! And that's exactly what these men are doing. And the feminists are MORE than delighted to lend a hand in that destruction.
Feminists are the gun that is used to kill men. But Wussie-poopie males are the hand that HOLDS that gun...!

  Thundercloud.
  "Hoka hey!"
Re:All prejiduce is the same.... but different.... (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:34 PM June 10th, 2005 EST (#7)
"Put them all together and it spells genocide of American Indian males. We already have the highest suicide rates of ANY ethnic group on the PLANET."

I was watching "Wind Talkers" the other night on the history channel - about the Navajo code talkers in WWII. One tidbit of info that was mentioned was that Navajo men (all ages) didn't even have the right to vote until after the war so some of those Navajo men (over 21) died in combat without having the right to vote. I honestly think their voting rights oppression had as much, or more, to do with racism as their gender, but I don't recall any Navajo women being sent to combat.

R
Re: VAWA '05 Targets Native American Men (Score:2)
by Roy on 01:43 PM June 11th, 2005 EST (#8)
There is an entire section of VAWA 2005 in the bill-- Title IX: "Safety for Indian Women."

You can locate it on the Thomas.gov site, under S. 1197.

Basically it creates a new federal office titled "Deputy Director in the Office on Violence Against Women" in D.C..... "with several duties, including, but not limited to, oversight of tribal grant programs and developing federal policies and protocols on matters relating to violence against women."

I don't know about you Thundercloud, but whenever I hear the word "federal" in association with "something good for Indians," I always recall Sitting Bull and his wisdom --

Quote: "I never taught my people to trust the Americans. I told them the truth -- the Americans are great liars."

Has this great chief and philosopher, among many others, ever been proven wrong?

(From: "It's a Good Day to Die: Indian Eyewitnesses Tell the Story of the Battle of the Little Bighorn.")


"It's a terrible thing ... to be living in fear."
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