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by Anonymous User on 12:07 AM April 28th, 2005 EST (#2)
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Because good news is no news?
There is tendency on this site to only highlight the doom and gloom side of contemporary men's existence and he evils and iniquties than are done unto him.
Gets a bit tedious at times, very repetitive.
Still, a good site for some worthwhile comments and links.
Neale
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by HombreVIII on 09:23 AM April 28th, 2005 EST (#5)
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"Because good news is no news?"
We post most of the good news articles that get submitted. They are unfortunately fewer and furthur between than the no so good news articles, but that's because there's still so much work to be done in the movement.
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by HombreVIII on 09:17 AM April 28th, 2005 EST (#4)
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I would hardly call that article a breath of fresh air. It looks like more of the same, women defining what being a "real man" is. Telling us everything from how to spend our own money to what to watch on TV and being shallow enough to actually care where we buy our grooming supplies. Do you think where you buy your deodorant makes a difference in how "manly" you are? This article says it does.
Sure, the article criticizes feminism and purports to support men, (real men, not those evil men who try to look good), but look at what it's actually saying...
"He doesn't have to do anything but go out to work and win the bread."
A bit telling, don't you think?
"Mrs. Graglia sees the "fashionable man" celebrated by pop culture as an emblem of selfishness."
Another case of when women do it it's because they just want to look nice or they're victims of patriarchal expectations of female beauty, when men do it it's because we're selfish.
"So many men are like that -- so narcissistic, so self-centered. They are really afraid of growing up,"
It's such a breath of fresh air to read men being described that way for a change. All that just because they buy their shampoo from a 'female unapproved' retailor, wear nice clothes, and keep their apartment clean. Doesn't that sound a bit panicky? As if she fears she and other women will lose power if men start looking better and take care of the things we typically have been dependant on women to do for us, perhaps. I think she's right.
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by Uberganger on 08:08 AM April 29th, 2005 EST (#9)
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Doesn't that sound a bit panicky?
This dovetails with something I've been thinking a lot lately: women don't support men, they undermine them. Behind every great man there's a woman who undermines him, then apparently helps him over the consquences, all so she can continue to leach off his effort and ingenuity.
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by Boy Genteel on 11:28 AM April 28th, 2005 EST (#6)
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I don't know if your "breath of fresh air" is as good a piece of news as you think. It suggests that women love not men but "masculinity," meaning they still want to be nurtured and protected and saved by strong, manly men, while not lifting a reciprocating finger (since being heroic and risking your own skin "simply isn't feminine").
As anecdotal evidence, I submit that this news was lauded by the very sexist Charlotte Hays, who two columns later was decrying women serving combat roles because with it we lose the idea that "men are supposed to protect women." Hays is one of those traditionalists who say, "Don't worry, boys! We're not feminists! We'll still let you buy us dinner and hold the door for us and die for us!" And this article seems to lean, at least, in that direction. By all means, leave me in the hands of the feminists who at least SAY that they want everyone to be equal...
Men are from EARTH. Women are from EARTH. Deal with it.
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by cnewbyuk on 12:34 AM April 28th, 2005 EST (#3)
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This is a serious website, dealing with serious issues. I have found this site to be extremely useful. However, sometimes is it a little dis-heartening and reading through can sometimes be hard work. I'm sadden by the crap that is out there. Lets be honest most men and women are good people. Imperfect, but good.
I posted the two articles to put a smile on peoples faces. Make then realise that all is not lost. Share a "feel-good" moment. So keep on submitting articles, the team that reviews the articles are not perfect and not machines. Maybe they did not have enough time to do your submission justice. Don't take personally, just thank them for the fantastic job they doing. We are not competing against each other, we are in this together.
cnewbyuk - British black dude who wants to become a dad, not a modern day slave
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by Dittohd on 12:13 PM April 28th, 2005 EST (#7)
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> We are not competing against each other, we are in this together.
Who said anything about competition? I oftentimes find this website depressing and the bad news overwhelming. I'm sure there must be a lot of others here with that same perception, especially those who go to this site everyday or almost everyday.
If anything, I think good news encourages action on our parts on the cases that scream out for action, as it helps to remind us that the situation is not helpless or a foregone conclusion.
When the bad news starts to get overwhelming, as it often does, I start to wonder whether it's all worth the effort and wonder if it would just be better to move overseas to a country where we men are appreciated and not constantly berated in every way possible.
Don't we men, first and foremost desire, other than good loving and sex, demonstrable appreciation for all our efforts, sacrifice, and hard work? Aren't you all kinda getting really tired of being told that we men have to act unnaturally (more like women) in order to get and please women? Based on my article, it appears that a lot of women are getting tired of being told that they should desire men who are more like women, which I think is great news that should not be bridled.
We still have a lot to fight for, but I think this article makes it clear that women do not respect us more when we allow them to screw the hell out of us at every turn. Most women (at least the ones that haven't yet been totally brainwashed beyond repair) naturally desire real men.
Dittohd
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by Boy Genteel on 11:37 AM April 29th, 2005 EST (#10)
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'I want to apologize to all for using the phrase "real men" in my posting above.'
I didn't notice you doing it so much as I noticed the article dripping with it. That's why I don't think it's good news: it in essence defines "real men" as those who will step in front of a speeding bus to keep their women from getting mud splashed on their new shoes.
Men are from EARTH. Women are from EARTH. Deal with it.
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cnewbyuk writes "A nice up tempo article to show that men (in real life) are nothing like what you see in poorly scripted misandarist TV programs. Enjoy and feel good to be a man (found this via Angryharry.com - another good website):-