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by Roy on 08:06 PM April 17th, 2005 EST (#1)
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MacKinnon stated -- " 'The number of people who died at [the terrorists’] hands is the same as the number of women who die at men’s hands-every year,' she said. 9/11 happens in this very country every year."
Well, what a sophisticated argument!
No need to make a reasoned, rational case for linking global terrorism with the 1% of female annual homicides that are attributed to domestic violence.
No need to acknowledge that men are the victims of over 85% of all violent crime.
No need...
Because feminist "logic" sees statistics as part of the evil patriarchy and its insistence on data.
I could as well state that "the number of raccoons who are run over by female-drivers every year exceeds those killed in the Twin Towers!"
(Of course, so far as we know, no racoons died on 9/11 in NYC.)
But my logic is at least as sound as Ms. MacKinnon's.
Does she know she is lying?
Does she know what a "lie" is?
Does she know how to look honestly into a mirror?
"It's a terrible thing ... to be living in fear."
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by Indiana Jones on 10:19 PM April 17th, 2005 EST (#2)
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"Domestic Violence courts are terribly under-enforced."
Wow, what a lie. Thousands of men, THOUSANDS (more than the actual number of women murdered) are thrown in prison, lost their property, and stripped of all his money simply based on ALLEGATIONS....ALLEGATIONS! of a jealous/angry wife. and the domestic violence court is "UNDER-ENFORCED??""
she also claims "war is waged by one half to the other half of gender"
What about all the battered men who have been SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN to be just as numerous as victims as female victims? Not to mention no shelter for men or any help whatsoever. Furthermore, many domestic violence are simply ALLEGEGATIONS made by the wife, thinking she can use the CORRUPT FEMINIST system to gain custory, assets, and throw him in jail.
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by Anonymous User on 10:20 PM April 17th, 2005 EST (#3)
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According to Warren Farrell, 75% of homocide victims in the United States are (gasp) MALE!
Of the 1500+ US troops killed in Iraq and Afganistan, the vast majority are (gasp) MALE!
And what about prison rape?
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by cnewbyuk on 02:17 AM April 18th, 2005 EST (#5)
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When a scientist or a engineer is doing research and compiling a research report, they endeavour to cover all the angles. When anyone analyses a situation and only gives one-side then the there is an element of self-serving involved.
Women have now gained a great deal of power and rights. However, as a general women are quite frankly inferior to men. I'm not scared to say that. Women are want to negate anything that makes men powerful.
Testosterone - blamed for all the things that make men eveil. However, it not praised for energy, determination, and drive that it gives men.
Phyiscal Strength - Male strength can only lead women into subjection. Male strength is a tool used to control and punish. My arse!!!!! Male strength helped build the China wall, that is visble in space. Male strength helped build the channel tunnel - an amazing feat of engineering on all levels.Male strength has invented many of the things that inprove our lives - from sport to medicine to games to transport to fashion - everything men have been MORE innovative than women. But there again they don't need to because we (men) are doing it all for them.
Are women slowly taking these things away from us - NO!!! We are slowly giving them away. Why be ashamed for being a man. Why am I rebuked (often by other men) for displaying and relying on my male abilities that women don't have? Look at what happen in Spain. Men had their march to celebrate their strengths, then the spainsh law makers change the rules - to bring them back in line. Classic tactics to control your slaves (yes I have read the manipulated male - a book that has changed my thinking in many ways - I will write a book review soon).
Let MacKinnon spew her cock and bull diatribe!!! Forget her, as her arguments are based on a foundation of mud - and the rainy season is coming. We should be focusing more on solidarity, celebrating that we are men who are powerful (and being powerful is not always being opressive, and enjoying the fact that we are superior - and even though male and female need each other, women actually need us more than we need them.
cnewbyuk - British black dude who wants to become a dad, not a modern day slave
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by Indiana Jones on 10:45 PM April 17th, 2005 EST (#4)
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her e-mail is camtwo@umich.edu, start the spam gentleman!
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by Luek on 11:52 AM April 18th, 2005 EST (#6)
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She is holding a book-signing event today in room 180 of the Law School at 12:30 p.m.
Too bad this defaming and misandry spreading maggot held this public event on April 15 past.
It would have been nice if a men's rights advocate out there in California had introduced her face to a coconut cream or chocolate cream flavored dessert.
Maybe she is having another public book signing somewhere?
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by Anonymous User on 01:29 PM April 18th, 2005 EST (#7)
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MacKinnon who is in my humble opinion a consummate male hater and pathological liar states, "Just like terrorist attacks, acts of violence against women are carefully planned, targeted at civilians and driven by ideology. Gang rape, pornography and other acts that humiliate and repress women are methodically organized; the targeted victims are essentially all civilians; and the misogynist attitude is as ideological as Islamic fundamentalism, MacKinnon contended....
...But men’s war against women has not even brought about an ad-hoc tribunal."
It is true that there are a very few evil males that perpetrate acts of violence against women. That is true. Show me where generally males in our culture condone planned violence against women. NOT! It just isn’t there.
It is however, a broad generalization and outright lie to state that because a few males are violent that ALL males are waging war against the female gender. This is the BIG LIE of feminism today.
The truth is that MacKinnon is waging war, using Marxist-Feminist ideology, against all males. Her motive is obviously hate.
Notice also how MacKinnon never quotes the statistics on violence against males. In her mind there is no such thing. It is a non-issue. Only women are to be considered and provided with special funding and privilege.
Also of interest is how MacKinnon lies about how males are in a massive conspiracy to commit violence against women. That simply claim is absurd on the face of it, yet where are the massive cries of intellectual women to denounce this liar? They all cower and remain silent.
Were men to cower like women and remain silent, women would have no freedom. They would instead be in a country taken over by Nazi’s or Communists.
Finally, it is intellectually dishonest for the liar MacKinnon to draw parallels to the war in Iraq and claim that men are waging the same war against women in a highly organized fashion. In my opinion, she cannot be excused for telling this lie. She has got to know better.
It is ironic that women, by their silence, accept these lies and seek to side with a communist in furthering the oppression of males. This is what women in America are calling a great writer, leader, and feminist.
Warble
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by Clancy
(long_ponytail@yahoo.com)
on 05:18 PM April 18th, 2005 EST (#8)
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Do you think she would accept the upcoming book, "The Dworkin Diet", as an anonymous gift?
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by khankrumthebulgar on 06:18 PM April 18th, 2005 EST (#9)
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Catherine MacKinnon is like Andrea Dworkin an extremist and a Man-Hater. She typifies the shrill voices of the Gender Feminists who are losing influence. The Marriage Strike by Men and refusal of many Men to have any permanent relationship with American or Western Women for anything but "Sport Sex" is having an impact on the culture. Women's capital is being degraded by Feminists and even Women are waking up to that fact. The truth is many American Women are openly hostile towards Feminists who they blame for their unhappiness and the refusal of Men to marry.
MacKinnon is a bigot who hates Men and should not be treated with any respect. She is no different than a Grand Wizard of the KKK towards Blacks only she has the same hatred towards Men. Go to Hell Catherine with your buddy Andrea. We hate you too!!
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by Anonymous User on 02:07 AM April 19th, 2005 EST (#10)
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Seventeen men in prison for every woman; 97-8% of all those executed were male. You guys are just too moderate; how many men have been burnt in electric chairs? Its time for some payback!
"Maybe she is having another public book signing somewhere?"
You bring the match and kindling and I'll bring the rope and stake.
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by Yanyan on 02:56 AM April 19th, 2005 EST (#11)
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MY E-MAIL TO HER:
So the same old scratchy record is being played on the antique feminist phonograph again. Yet another pampered and privileged Western woman gets up on her hind legs and pontificates about the ‘subordination of women’. Here is a woman whose whole lifestyle is built on the backs of working men in her own country and abroad. I have no doubt that as a ‘professor of law’ she lives a life of luxury compared to the other ninety-nine per cent of the world’s population. From her ivory tower she bewails the fact that women sometimes die at the hands of men and equates it with ‘terrorism’. Well surprise, surprise. Dysfunctional people sometimes kill each other. Murder is hardly the monopoly of men, although they suffer most from it.
Every waking minute of her life men toil around her in dangerous jobs, shrug their shoulders at the incessant clamoring of the wimmin industry and, while wondering what it’s all about, die early and unfulfilled. Many die sooner than they expected, in the service of ideals which have been long-since been corrupted beyond repair by her and her kind. Her own countrymen may fall in foreign wars, little knowing that they were trying to keep her and her kind in the luxury to which she’s become accustomed. More outrageously, they were actually helping her to impose her trivial and venal ideology on the rest of the world, on people who neither want nor need such pernicious drivel. Where does this asinine professor think terrorism comes from? Perhaps History is not her strong suit.
We needn’t worry too much about her bleating. She may have a point though that times have definitely changed. If the protection and support of women is now the responsibility of government and the courts, men may rightly feel that their individual obligation is considerably less and behave accordingly. The masculist genie will not go back in the bottle. Try telling any aware young western man that a lifetime of servitude to one painted imbecile and her offspring is somehow noble and he’ll laugh. Try telling him that, while foregoing all his rights, he must pay through his taxes to maintain such people in their indolence and he’ll laugh bitterly. Try telling him about the subordination of women and he will not laugh at all. He will simply assume you’re insane.
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by AngryMan
(end_misandryNOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk)
on 06:05 AM April 19th, 2005 EST (#12)
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RE: (http://daily.stanford.edu/tempo?page=content&id=1 6874&repository=0001_article)
Dear Professor MacKinnon,
It has come to my attention that you recently made a statement in a public speech in which you stated that:- (1) In the USA a war against women is being waged by men, (2) That this 'war' is comparable to the 9/11 attacks, (3) That unlike 9/11, this war is being unjustly ignored by the judicial system, the government and the media.
I put it to you that every part of this statement is inaccurate.
If we take 'domestic violence' or 'spousal abuse' (which I take to be interchangeable terms) as an example of the kind of thing you are referring to when you talk about a 'war against women', I hardly need to tell you that all of the available scientific evidence on the subject indicates (1) That women initiate spousal abuse at least as often as men, if not more often (2) Spousal abuse is strongly correllated wth alcohol and substance abuse. I offer the following references:
http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
Your claim that spousal abuse is idelogically motivated is indefensible. I suggest that it is you who is idelogically motivated. The feminist view of domestic violence is a catalogue of deliberate misrepresentation.
The feminist rhetoric that you espouse has a quaintly old-fashioned ring to it, like something from another age. It is reminiscent of 20th century Marxist rhetoric, from which of course it is derived. I personally regard the feminist movement as the Western world's last surviving bastion of totalitarianism. Like many such idelogies before it, it survives by preaching hatred of the 'other', by recruiting new members by the tactic of spreading fear and alarm, and keeping the members motivated by feeding them a constant diet of atrocity stories. It provides its adherents with a sense of personal identity, community and purpose, and it makes the world seem like a more interesting and dramatic place. It teaches its adherents that they are good, important people, and that they are charged with an important historical mission. As such, it bears many similarities to a cult religion. I too was attracted to such movements when I was in my late teens, but I eventually grew out of it. However, I am aware of the fact that attractive careers and salaries can be built on the back of such ideas.
Men are increasingly beginning to organise themselves against the kind of scurrilous attacks being launched against them in the media and public life by people like yourself. I believe that the days when you can continue to make these outrageous claims and expect to be taken seriously are numbered.
Regards,
AngryMan
"Never tolerate psychotic behaviour no matter how good she is in bed." Thomas Ellis
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by Anonymous User on 08:38 PM April 19th, 2005 EST (#14)
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MacKinnon is a brain-dead male-hater. I hope that you sent this email to a bunch of persons at Stanford rather than just to that feminazi. She won't read it and even if she did, she's too sick to understand it.
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zozo writes "Professor Catharine MacKinnon