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Half-Truths and Disinformation in Canadian DV Campaign
posted by Matt on 09:23 PM April 12th, 2005
Domestic Violence Eeva writes "The Canadian Women's Foundation has issued a press release claiming that "Every minute a woman in Canada is abused. That is why Canadian Women's Foundation, Hudson's Bay Company (Hbc) and Rogers are asking Canadians not to wait another minute."

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Write to:
kluttrell-at-canadianwomen.org
mariana.direzze-at-hbc.com
brenda.burns-at-rci.rogers.com
hbc.communications-at-hbc.com
jan.innes-at-rci.rogers.com

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Hm (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 10:15 PM April 12th, 2005 EST (#1)
"Every minute a woman in Canada is abused."

They'd better find that woman. She's probably a bloody pulp by now.
Jokes aside: (Score:1)
by LSBeene on 10:37 PM April 12th, 2005 EST (#2)
Jokes aside:

Are they honestly saying that in a country of 30 million, that : (their calculations) 525,600 DV incident happen each year?! Out of a population of 30+ million!?

Each DV'er, according to their "experts" is a multiple offender (often we forget their interactive and co-joining stats) ... so each year the reported DV is MORE than 10% of the population.

Clearly, ahem, that doesn't "jibe".

And, lol, (not laughing at REAL DV victims) that number don't work.

Either the guys are "multiple offenders (of differnt women!?) each year" .... AND it's "just not reported" or a country ... the WHOLE country is LYING (but in favor of the men who abuse).

Wow, that a complete and total, unverifiable, and (how DARE we ask) assertion.

Feminist weakness: at each stage: they present a pyramid of facts that won't fit in with other "fects".

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But since they all "jibe" with each other, what's the problem?! Why is it when we compare disparate facts (name a few: #'s of rapists, #'s of victims per rapist, and then # of men who % wise ARE rapists) ....umm we come up with 1/70 - 1/250 men rape .. but then 1/4 men are RAPISTS?

From the same facts.

It's boring, it's tedius, but the same rape centers produces the same facts (they're stuck with it).

Steven
Guerrilla Gender Warfare is just Hate Speech in polite text
Moeny - Hbc are in it for the money (Score:1)
by cnewbyuk on 10:53 PM April 12th, 2005 EST (#3)
"Violence against women affects everyone -- women, men, children, family members and more," says George Heller, President and CEO, Hbc. "At Hbc, we recognize that preventing violence against women is essential to building healthy families and creating strong communities. Violence against women has far-reaching consequences that diminish all of us. We all need to take responsibility for stopping it, and we're pleased to work with Canadian Women's Foundation and Rogers to provide an easy way for Canadians to get involved."
Donate a $1 everytime you visit the store? A national campaign, which will be linked indirectly to a radio-a-thon? Is it me, or is George Heller going to get a shed-load of free press? It seems like, where there's a DV claim, there's $'s to be claimed!!! Is THIS what feminism is all about?


cnewbyuk - British black dude who wants to become a dad, not a modern day slave
Re:Moeny - Hbc are in it for the money (Score:1)
by Underage on 05:00 PM April 18th, 2005 EST (#11)
Notice how this George Heller doesn't really say HOW violence against women affects everyone. He doesn't put any facts like, "Violence against women leads up to children who are seven times more likely to quit school." You know what I mean?

And I live in Canada and each December 6 it becomes this national "Stop Violence against Women" day (a.k.a male-bashing day). They even said that most men don't get violent with women...so then how is it possible that half the women in Canada have experienced violence? Are these like 8% of men running across the whole country just looking for women to beat? Something here clearly doesn't make sense.
I actually called them and complained (Score:1)
by Indiana Jones on 01:13 AM April 13th, 2005 EST (#4)
I actually called them and complained, and you know what they told me? They all told me the basic same theme "women must have equal rights as men." Unfortunately, when itold them about family courts, divorce, and false allegations, they hung up.
Time for civil violence (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 02:17 AM April 13th, 2005 EST (#5)
This movement needs to get very politically violent on those who hate us in turn. The state is the primary focus of confrontation as it has itself set out to harm all its male members and stew up as much heat on men as possible.

You got to understand where all this is leading to. "Male-elimination" is what.

Who stands to profit most from DV anyway, the stool-pidgeons, state-mongers and parrasites, is who. And I envisage a world where every one of these creatures gets whats comming to them.
They ignore their own Canadian Government Data (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 10:12 AM April 13th, 2005 EST (#6)
This Canadian government report describes exactly what they ignore.

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/ncfv-cnivf/familyviolen ce/pdfs/Intimate_Partner.pdf

Marc
Re:They ignore their own Canadian Government Data (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 03:53 PM April 13th, 2005 EST (#7)
Also from their "facts" page on the web site --

http://www.cdnwomen.org/eng/4/4r.asp

The Hard Facts:
Violence against Women in Canada

•The annual cost of violence against women in Canada has been estimated at well over four billion dollars. 1
•Almost a million women are either battered or sexually assaulted in Canada each year. 2
•Fifty-one per cent of women in Canada have, since the age of 16, experienced at least one incident of violence.
•Fifty-four per cent of girls under the age of 16 have experienced some form of unwanted sexual attention
•Over one million children in Canada have witnessed violence in the home.
•CWF is currently only able to fund approximately 15% of the funding requests we receive for violence prevention projects from women’s organizations across the country.

Note that of the six factoids, only two are attributed to any corroborating study.

Terms like "battered, sexually assaulted, violence,and unwanted sexual attention (!!!)" are not defined.

By these criteria, any female who has suffered a lingering glance by a male (or a lesbian?)has been "abused."

More sloppy feminist propaganda masquerading as truth.

You'd think with all their millions that CA's feminuts could hire a couple fact-checkers and competent social science researchers to shore up their tired allegations of a national DV "crisis."


Make no mistake (Score:1)
by napnip on 04:42 PM April 13th, 2005 EST (#8)
http://www.aynrand.org
You'd think with all their millions that CA's feminuts could hire a couple fact-checkers and competent social science researchers to shore up their tired allegations of a national DV "crisis."

Make no mistake about it, they most certainly do have fact-checkers to find out the real facts for them.

They simply ignore the real facts.

It's not in their interest ($$$) to admit that men are battered in huge numbers. It's not in their interest ($$$) to admit that women can be violent. That many women lie about rape. That the majority of child abusers are women. That the "wage gap" is a myth.

But they most certainly do know it. They simply won't admit it when the television cameras are on.

"Existence exists. A is A." -Ayn Rand
Re:Make no mistake... there's a legal term for it. (Score:0)
by Anonymous User on 07:08 PM April 13th, 2005 EST (#10)
It's called "racketeering."

(Webster's) -- "One who obtains money by an illegal enterprise usually involving intimidation."

Have you got a better definition of "feminism?"
No charity from Rogers (Score:1)
by Ragtime on 06:11 PM April 13th, 2005 EST (#9)
You can take as gospel that Rogers would not do ANYTHING that was not directly profitable -- there will be no charity coming from them.

Rogers is a horrible company that generally treats their employees poorly and their customers worse. They are very much like Microsoft; their attitude towards their customers is best described as 'contemptuous.'

And the majority of their advertising is actively misandrous -- you can count on it being insulting and demeaning towards men.

Feel free to tear them a new one.

Ragtime

The Uppity Wallet

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