Women denied bail in fatal stabbing

	posted by Matt on 08:17 PM February 18th, 2005
	CJ writes "Story here. Quotes: 'Two young women charged with the fatal stabbing of a 19-year-old woman were denied bail a second time. They stabbed the victim several times in the throat and stomach with broken beer bottles and steak knives. The confrontation apparently stemmed from an argument over a boyfriend. In MA, judges routinely deny men bail on simple charges alone if related to DV - it is rare for women to get denied bail unless the case is extreme like this one.'"

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Zero Tolerance Fostered By 30 Years of Feminism? (Score:2) by Luek on 10:38 PM February 18th, 2005 EST (#1) These two young females are probably mimicking the zero tolerance, maximum punishment the misandric state of Massachusetts metes out to domestic violence offenders, mostly male of course. They obviously felt that the maximum penalty for this personal slight, which in the present day social atmosphere of feminist elitism could be interpreted as a incidence of domestic violence perpetrated on them. This is becoming a pattern across the nation. Just this week a 15 year old boy in South Carolina was convicted of killing his grandparents in their sleep just because they physically punished him. He was 12 at the time of the murders. Also, in Idaho a 16 year old girl is on trial for killing her parents because they didn't like her boyfriend and punished her. Again, the maximum penalty for a what she interpreted as a personal attack akin to domestic violence. These young people are getting the message that it is okay to use maximum deadly force against someone who you believe has phyically and or mentally abused you. Just like a wife shooting here supposedly abusive husband in the head while he is asleep.

Re:Zero Tolerance Fostered By 30 Years of Feminism (Score:0) by Anonymous User on 11:32 PM February 18th, 2005 EST (#2) Just this week a 15 year old boy in South Carolina was convicted of killing his grandparents in their sleep just because they physically punished him. He was 12 at the time of the murders. I don't know about this one, the kid was on very high doses of Zoloft at the time. I tended to dicount that those drugs could have that effect until I tried Zyban (also marketed as the antidepressant Wellbutrin and the generic Budeprion) in a quit smoking attempt. Zoloft & Zyban/Wellbutrin carry the same warnings about hostility, suicidality...etc After about 8 days on the Zyban I felt absolutely insanely angry all of the time, couldn't sleep, was aggitated, literally in a continious rage. It definitely changed my thought pattents for the worse. If I didn't have the prescence of mind to stop I could easily have strangled someone I lived with over a minor slight. It was helping make cigarette cravings less, but it could easily have cost me my employer, friends, family, freedom, possibly even my life. 50 people can take this drug and maybe 3-4 of them get a reaction like that, but those that get that reaction it is very profound. If you hadn't experienced it you would automatically underestimate the intensity of it. If his behavior that week was grossly out of the normal for his routine, it's a pretty good bet the Zoloft was the major contributing factor. Unfortunately only those who have experieced & witnessed these effects of these drugs could honestly be in a position to judge that. Children might be at an even greater disadvantage than adults in the regard that they usually have someone else controlling the medicine for them, and can't quit it as easily when it starts creating problems for them. They may also lack the insight that their behavior & thinking is a radical change.

Death by intimate (Score:0) by Anonymous User on 11:43 PM February 18th, 2005 EST (#3) Heck seems best strategy for survival is to avoid reproducing or cohabitating and for that matter keeping your number of "friends" down to a bare minumum.... more likely to die at the hands of one you know than don't know... I'll take my chances with pets. They are less dangerous that housemates, wives, children, or friends. OK, time to go back to hiding under my couch now... :)

Well, the victim was female, after all. (Score:1) by Ragtime on 12:45 AM February 19th, 2005 EST (#4) Two young women charged with the fatal stabbing of a 19-year-old woman were denied bail a second time. Of course, if the victim had been MALE, bail would not have been in question. I'm sure this crime is only being considered this serious becasue the victim was female. Heck, had the victim been male, they'd already be talking about 'counseling' for the poor dears who were obviously just 'defending' themselves. Ragtime The Uppity Wallet The opinions expressed above are my own, but you're welcome to adopt them.

Re:Well, the victim was female, after all. (Score:0) by Anonymous User on 11:33 AM February 19th, 2005 EST (#5) Ragtime- That was what I thought, too. That had the mudered person been a man they WOULD have gotten bail. I can't remember specifics, at the moment, But I do remember seeing crimes commited by females where they did or didn't get bail. In most cases I seem to recal that they got no bail if their victim(s) were female but DID get bail if their victim(s) was a man. Actualy, I thought that one couldn't get bail at all if one was accused of murder...., Or is that just men?   Thundercloud.   "Hoka hey!"

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