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by Clancy
(long_ponytail@yahoo.com)
on 12:26 AM January 29th, 2005 EST (#1)
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Woman bashing! How stupid of me not to have noticed. The woman that orders her pussy whipped, Homer Simpson husband to take a hike and leave his daughter, who is junior mensa member, alone is actually being portrayed as a NAG. Son of a bitch, those Verizon marketeers are a clever bunch.
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by Anonymous User on 04:37 PM January 29th, 2005 EST (#3)
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"being portrayed as a NAG. Son of a bitch, those Verizon marketeers are a clever bunch."
I suspect those female advertising exec's. where thinking this was portraying women as empowered, assertive, and of leadership quality so "yes" that comment near the end of the Times article was pure feminist spin (poor, poor empowered woman as victim). They got caught bashing men so now they pull out the "female victim" side of the "empowered woman" coin like the true hypocrites they are and blame advertisers for showing women as "nagging." Nice double standard feminist comment to end the article on.
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 08:00 PM January 29th, 2005 EST (#6)
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Managers are adept at being sorry that the victim of their bloviating horseshit was interpreted by the intended target in a manner that wasn't intended, and then imposing, retroactively, some other interpretation that puts them in a good light:
"We're sorry you misinterpreted the Verizon ad as an exercise in male bashing--it was not intended that way. On the contrary, the canonical, unitary interpration of the ad is that the wife nagged too much. Again, we regret your radically misconceived misperception of our wholesome ad."
Well, we regret that their products cannot be purchased in response to such advertising, and we assure them that no criticism of them was intended, nor was it our intention that they lose a single penny in profits.
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by Anonymous User on 08:03 PM January 29th, 2005 EST (#7)
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Managers are adept at being "sorry" that their hapless victim has interpreted their bloviating horseshit "in a manner that wasn't intended," and then imposing, retroactively, some other interpretation that puts them in a good light:
"We're sorry you misinterpreted the Verizon ad as an exercise in male bashing--it was not intended that way. This interpretation is entirely your presumption, for which we will never apologize. On the contrary, the canonical, unitary interpration of the ad is that the wife nagged too much. Again, we regret your radically misconceived misperception of our wholesome ad."
Well, we regret that their products cannot be purchased in response to such advertising, and we assure them that no criticism of them was intended, nor was it our intention that they lose a single penny in profits.
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by Anonymous User on 12:14 PM January 30th, 2005 EST (#12)
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That's neat.
A good idea, too. We should send people like VERISON and PROGRESSIVE INSURANCE letters like that. That sound like the condecending response letters that they send when we protest their misandry.
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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Good idea TC. I was thinking along the same lines a while back. Sending them a formal letter saying they are now on this list and tell them exactly what they need to do to get off. We could mention the NY Times article. ;>)
Do we have True Equality?
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by MAUS on 09:30 PM January 30th, 2005 EST (#15)
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Fellas, don't take spin doctors seriously, just tell them to "GO wash the dog"
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by Anonymous User on 03:37 PM January 29th, 2005 EST (#2)
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Hello, the "gender sneer" is real and a problem, but next to anti-male sexism in family law, crimialization of male sexuality, lack of enforcement of father's visting rights, etc., misandristic ads are minor potatoes.
The NYT is all about minor potatoes, especially when it comes to men.
Who wants to read Maureen Dowd pondering why men don't like women like Maureen Dowd? How about some reporting on real men's issues?
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by Anonymous User on 04:45 PM January 29th, 2005 EST (#4)
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"How about some reporting on real men's issues?"
Men have been trivialized in the media as whiners for speaking up about their issues, and it seems to be the trivial issues that the feminist controlled media loves to report on to further narginalize men in our society.
With great sites like Stand Your Ground and Mensactivism we routinely see issues of greater substance than just male bashing in advertising, but again, the feminist controlled media in its misandric bias chooses to cover trivial male issues and further denigrate, insult, disempower, abuse, neglect, defraud and injure all male citizens.
It is clear from reading biased, feminist, propaganda rags, that one cannot soon expect to see the truth be told about the issues that are so tragically affecting the lives of all males in America today.
Sincerely, Ray
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by HombreVIII on 05:08 PM January 29th, 2005 EST (#5)
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I don't think I agree with you two that male bashing in the media is trivial. The other problems you mentioned are in my opinion partially a result of male bashing. For example, if politicians hadn't heard the term "deadbeat dad" so many times would they have brought back debtor's prisons? It seems to me that tv has a huge influence in shaping the way people in a society see themselves and each other, and thereby also shaping how they act towards each other. As long as the media shows women as being a superior group, most of society will act as though they are.
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by Anonymous User on 12:23 PM January 30th, 2005 EST (#13)
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YES! YES! Exactly!
What the media is doing is nothing short of social engineering.
Personaly, I hold the media 97% responsible for the social, political and sexual intolerance of males that we see and expirience in the Western world.
We REALLY NEED to focus on them (the media)much more than we have!
Thundercloud.
"Hoka hey!"
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by MAUS on 09:41 PM January 30th, 2005 EST (#16)
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Thundercloud, My observation is that compared to previous times the MRAs have won a lot of ground in the popular media. Our real focus for the next phase of the battle should be to break the unholy alliance between the government mandarin system and academic feminism and then root feminism out of academia. It is my observation that there is clearly a trend in the popular media to scorn orthodox feminism. There is currently a series on CBC called "This is Wonderland" that is the funniest satyre of contemporary life I have ever seen. My favourite character in it is a judge who has just come back from a heart attack and has vowed to brook no more bullshit. His responses to one of the feminist public defenders have made me laugh till I cried.
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by Anonymous User on 12:01 PM January 31st, 2005 EST (#18)
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"Our real focus for the next phase of the battle should be to break the unholy alliance between the government mandarin system and academic feminism and then root feminism out of academia."
Our college campuses are shelters for the hate movement known as women's studies. Yes, women's studies is a hate movement that has as it's target all males. The documentation is abundant.
Sincerely, Ray
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by Anonymous User on 10:38 PM January 29th, 2005 EST (#9)
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"I don't think I agree with you two that male bashing in the media is trivial.",
Fair enough, I'll just say media male bashing is relatively trivial compared to graphic male abuses like prison rape, paternity fraud, false accusations of domestic violence or child abuse, etc., but you are right too.
When looking at the overall picture of the war on males, media male bashing is a very insidious evil that is foundational to the devaluation of men's rights, and subsequently paves the way for wholesale "disposbability" of men. Likewise, through biased reporting, men are vilified, and that contributes to the gender feminist agenda which works so hard to further criminalize all things male.
Media male bashing might be compared to a treatable, slow form of cancer. Your lucky it isn't as overtly destructive as a fast form of cancer, but it is none the less a dangerous threat not to be taken lightly.
Ray
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by Anonymous User on 11:03 PM January 29th, 2005 EST (#10)
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Ray -- "Media male bashing might be compared to a treatable, slow form of cancer."
Indeed, and like slow-growing cancer, it is usually misdiagnosed and/or dismissed.
Misandry has become like toxic wallpaper in our culture... it's so pervasively present in the media background that it has become an accepted ambient attitude...
Feminism is the carbon monoxide (CO2) of our society... everpresent, its ubiquity masks its lethality.
Breathe too deeply too long, and your culture dies.
In its sleep.
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by Konovan on 11:57 PM January 29th, 2005 EST (#11)
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I think carbon monoxide is just CO. Carbon dioxide would be CO2.
(It wouldn't really matter anyway. If enough carbon dioxide replaces oxygen, you'll still die.)
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by MAUS on 09:48 PM January 30th, 2005 EST (#17)
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Oscar Wilde ended his days in a Paris slum tenement. He hated the Paris green wallpaper. His last words were (as he pointed to the wallpaper): "One of us has got to go!"
It later turned out that the pigment in the wallpaper had poisoned him. It's funny how the intuition realises these things.
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